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Obama reneging again? Makes a deal...breaks a deal....ho hum

Barbella

Barbella

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Another all-but-certain battle over the fate of the Keystone XL pipeline is fast approaching as the White House signals resistance to a new Feb. 21 deadline for approval of the project and interest groups step up their campaigns.

The White House agreed to the new deadline as a part of Republican language inserted in the recently passed payroll tax cut extension, but with that deadline now looming, the White House appears hesitant to meet it.
"The State Department has been very clear that that does not allow for the kinds of reviews that are necessary," White House spokesman Jay Carney said last week of the fast approaching deadline.

The State Department has the final say in approval of the pipeline because it crosses international borders. It has been reviewing the proposal for three years.
Pipeline supporters say that several environmental reviews of the proposed pipeline have already been conducted and that the White House is stonewalling under competing pressures from two of its core constituencies -- on one hand big labor, which wants a piece of the thousands of jobs the pipeline would bring, and environmentalists on the other hand, who abhor the further reliance on fossil fuels that the pipeline would bring.

To pressure the White House, congressional Republicans and their allies in the oil industry -- headed by the American Petroleum Institute -- have begun a media campaign in support of the pipeline.

An ad run by API begins with the voice of a narrator saying Obama "promised," followed by a statement from the president that he "will do whatever it takes to put this economy back on track."

The narration continues: "Now is his chance. The Keystone XL pipeline is ready to be built bringing energy from Canada to power our country safely and responsibly and employing thousands immediately."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ne-is-too-soon/?intcmp=trending#ixzz1jd3BDr4j
 
You do realize that the Canadian oil is going to be refined in our refineries and then sold on the world market, right? Check and see what our biggest export was last year.
 
OldGaffer said:
You do realize that the Canadian oil is going to be refined in our refineries and then sold on the world market, right? Check and see what our biggest export was last year.
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They've been told to believe that it's going to "reduce oil prices"...ergo they believe it's true.

Don't confuse the Fox-heads with facts, OG. :)
 
Barbella said:
Another all-but-certain battle over the fate of the Keystone XL pipeline is fast approaching as the White House signals resistance to a new Feb. 21 deadline for approval of the project and interest groups step up their campaigns.

The White House agreed to the new deadline as a part of Republican language inserted in the recently passed payroll tax cut extension, but with that deadline now looming, the White House appears hesitant to meet it.
"The State Department has been very clear that that does not allow for the kinds of reviews that are necessary," White House spokesman Jay Carney said last week of the fast approaching deadline.

The State Department has the final say in approval of the pipeline because it crosses international borders. It has been reviewing the proposal for three years.
Pipeline supporters say that several environmental reviews of the proposed pipeline have already been conducted and that the White House is stonewalling under competing pressures from two of its core constituencies -- on one hand big labor, which wants a piece of the thousands of jobs the pipeline would bring, and environmentalists on the other hand, who abhor the further reliance on fossil fuels that the pipeline would bring.

To pressure the White House, congressional Republicans and their allies in the oil industry -- headed by the American Petroleum Institute -- have begun a media campaign in support of the pipeline.

An ad run by API begins with the voice of a narrator saying Obama "promised," followed by a statement from the president that he "will do whatever it takes to put this economy back on track."

The narration continues: "Now is his chance. The Keystone XL pipeline is ready to be built bringing energy from Canada to power our country safely and responsibly and employing thousands immediately."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ne-is-too-soon/?intcmp=trending#ixzz1jd3BDr4j
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Why are you so worried about the republicons in Nebraska telling Obama that they don't want the pipeline to pollute their water systems? Are you worried that some Canadians might not become millionaires by shipping their oil across America? You do know that the vast majority of that Canadian oil is for export to countries other than America don't you? I understand you republicon bent that says damn the environment as long as we make a buck, but the Nebraskans feel different.
 
You DO realize that it would create thousands of jobs AND it would lessen our dependence for oil from countries less hostile to us?
 
Barbella said:
You DO realize that it would create thousands of jobs AND it would lessen our dependence for oil from countries less hostile to us?
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It would create some temporary jobs during the constrution, but only a handful of permanent jobs once it is built. Pipeline maintenance is not a huge employer.
 
OldGaffer said:
It would create some temporary jobs during the constrution, but only a handful of permanent jobs once it is built. Pipeline maintenance is not a huge employer.
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So when Obama creates tempory jibs from my tax dollars you have no problem. But tempory from the private sector ( not my tax dollars) you have a problem LMAO . Lookmin the mirror if you wonder why the country is such a mess. People wo can't think beyond their politics.
 
Ah yes....the "State" department. Yet another government bureaucracy that needs to be fumigated and completely replaced with non-communist representatives.
 
Maybe....cause......they have even more enviro-wacko loony lefties preventing the deal than we have? (just a guess)
 
Barbella said:
You DO realize that it would create thousands of jobs AND it would lessen our dependence for oil from countries less hostile to us?
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How is that Barbie? I haven't seen any report that says it will do this. Please put up any facts you wish to entertain us with, but your saying it is so does not add to facts. Do you know of a law that says Oil refined in the USA will stay in the USA? No it will go to the highest bidder.


To pressure the White House, congressional Republicans and their allies in the oil industry -- headed by the American Petroleum Institute --

100% right, their allies, not the american public but the oil industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Lapcat said:
Ah yes....the "State" department. Yet another government bureaucracy that needs to be fumigated and completely replaced with non-communist representatives.
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Environmental study under Bush would go like this, well it will add a few jobs, and whats a few oil spills, they can be cleaned up right. Win win, jobs to build it and jobs to clean up the pollution.

"needs to be fumigated" wow nice thoughts from nice people, LOL way to talk about your American brothers
 
If it's such a wonderful project, why should it be tied to a payroll tax cut extension?

Answer: If you're a pub, you can't be seen as pandering to the 99% or you're screwed. So blow some smoke.
 
Lapcat said:
Maybe....cause......they have even more enviro-wacko loony lefties preventing the deal than we have? (just a guess)
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My guess is that Obama is opposed to these jobs until he can figure out a way to control who gets hired and who doesn't get hired. Pipeline Construction includes many high paying jobs not only in the construction but also high paying jobs the manufacture of related equipment such as pumps valves monitoring equipment storage facilities etc. IN addition there are high paying jobs in the refining and in the ports and ocean transport of exported products after the pipeline is completed.

Until Obama can get some kind of handle on rationing these jobs to his cronies for paybacks and buy support he will not approve the project

Besides that Texas will benefit,,,This is just unacceptable
 
zzigzzag said:
If it's such a wonderful project, why should it be tied to a payroll tax cut extension?

Answer: If you're a pub, you can't be seen as pandering to the 99% or you're screwed. So blow some smoke.
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If you can't answer your own question try dancing with the stars. Com. More your speed.
 
Obie's dragging his feet on this one until after the election....he doesn't want to piss off the environmentalists, nor the moderates. He's so worried about losing that he "forgets" to worry about what's good for the economy.

It's ALL about politics...you know that. :)
 
I asked the question. You're the one declining to answer for obvious reasons.
 
How is that Barbie? I haven't seen any report that says it will do this.
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Oh yes, the American Petroleum Institute has been shouting the preposterous claim that the Keystone pipeline will create 20,000 instant jobs.

A couple of cons here have been parroting it relentlessly dispite the fact that it is clearly and obviously false.

The final route of the pipline hasn't been determined. The rights of way haven't been secured. There are no permits in place.

This project is several years away from even the beginning of construction regardless of what the State Department does.

There are no 20,000 instant jobs to be had.

But you won't hear that from Rush or Fox Noise.
 
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