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Obama's Lack of Transparency

Arkady

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One of the things that appealed to me about Obama in 2008 was my honest belief that he'd conduct a more transparent administration -- not just more transparent than the black pit of the Bush years, but more transparent even than the Clinton administration. This wasn't some starry-eyed Obama infatuation. I was a reluctant Obama supporter, and I recognized he was the kind of scumbag who'd lie through his teeth to get elected (as when he pretended we could have healthcare that included a rule against excluding pre-existing conditions, without any kind of requirement that people have coverage, which only a moron could have HONESTLY thought was possible). But, when it came to transparency, I really did think he'd be an improvement. After all, Obama spoke frequently and eloquently about the issue, which is something that McCain certainly wasn't doing, and that you seldom heard from Edwards and Hillary Clinton, either:

http://www.propublica.org/article/obama-details-promises-for-transparency-1107

It appeared to be a key issue for Obama, and that made me very hopeful.

Unfortunately, the reality could hardly have been more different from the promise of his campaign. Although you can make a decent case Obama's been a good president overall (he got us out of Iraq, got the economy growing again, repaired our reputation internationally, took baby steps in the direction of addressing global warming, and pushed through the first major reform to our train wreck of a healthcare system in generations), it's hard to ignore the fact he's been an absolute nightmare when it comes to transparency.

Not only was this not a marked improvement from the Bush years, I'd argue that things are much worse. Obama, for example, has held far fewer press conferences than Bush (who had a shameful lack of them in his own right). Obama's administration is worse about responding to Freedom of Information Act requests than Bush's was, too. Obama's administration has also used the Espionage Act to prosecute more whistle blowers as spies than all other administrations combined. And the treatment of one such whistle-blower, Army Private Bradley Manning, has been so terrible as to draw condemnation from international human rights watchdogs. The UN's leading anti-torture official investigated the treatment and said it was "cruel, inhuman and degrading," and concluded that it may have risen to the definition of torture.

Of course, even as the Obama administration was waging a war on whistle-blowers, stonewalling information requests, and refusing to speak with reporters, it was also playing with some gimmicks to give the appearance of greater transparency -- like a system that allows online petitioners to prompt a response from the White House on issues that interest them.... like a proposal for building a Death Star. But when you move past the gimmicks and look at the fundamental issues that affect how important information flows from our Executive Branch to the American People, Obama has been a terrible president:

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/22/on_freedom_of_speech_obama_nixon_comparisons_are_apt/
 
I mostly agree....as long as people who leak classified information that could endanger our operatives are not included in the "whistle blower" category. Leaking information about us endangering our own operatives would qualify as whistle blowing IMHO. The law always comes down to definitions. That's why we need trials. That's why Zimmy hasn't just plead guilty after chasing someone down and killing him.
 
The main issue is the precedence it sets. If one president can operate with such a lack of transparency....what will stop the next one? Or the next?
 
I wish Obama would hold more press conferences - he's very good at them - but I don't think that's how we should measure transparency.

Allow me to remind you of things like Darth Cheney's "energy task force," where Darth invited in Big Oil and Big Coal people to "make our energy policies," in way that were kept secret. Darth and GWB fought tooth and nail to keep everything about that secret - the agenda, the attendees, and the outcome. Same with the meetings with the Enron hoodlums right before California got raped and the Enron house of cards collapsed.

Thankfully, outrages like that ended with the GWB administration.
 
If one president can operate with such a lack of transparency

Which "one" are you talking about? The Watergate one? The Iran Contra one? The one who was having breakfast with his long time war profiteering friends, the Bin Ladens, when the planes hit the towers? The WMD one?

Oh yeah....the one who is obsessed with plugging classified info leaks. He's the precedent for lack of transparency. Hahahahahaha!
 
EXACTLY!

That's the freaking point!

We have to DEMAND transparency from ALL OF THEM.

What part of that is so freaking hard for you sycophants?
 
Well, I suppose that if Obama truly was completely transparent, then we wouldn't be having all of these problems with the folks who hate him primarily for his skin color.
 
They are NOT whistleblowers.

I fully disagree with your summation as it requires a major ingredient which is missing. Accusations of wrongdoing when there is no wrongdoing do not require an answer beyond whether or not a law was broken or an unquestionable mistake made. What seems to be arising from all the false accusations as a disturbing trend is that beyond Obama revealing supportive evidence that supports legality of actions to whatever the charge may be, it seems that he must reveal what is not there, illegality. What is "there in there" is a legal right for the DOJ to issue the subpoena legally. Once legality is shown, that is transparency. There is nothing to reveal beyond that.

I am a bit frustrated to see republicans make up the lies, create a hearing to demand an answer to their lies and then demand transparency from Obama's legally applied answer to their lies. The DOJ was well within their rights. The media knew full well they had to change the law and had to do it in court. It is not just the Espionage Act of 1916 either, it includes the knowledge of the media shield bill argued in 2009 and the implementation of the law that gives DOJ the right. This was LEGAL.

Whistleblowers are still free to blow whistles as that has not changed. National Interest theft of high security info that can take lives or weaken the US is not currently considered a Whistleblower. It has been tested. The Press be damned. If they want to change the law, they are really late getting started.
 
There it is!

The race-baiting that we've all come to expect from liberals who have otherwise run out of talking points!

Well done!
 
They are NOT whistleblowers.

I fully disagree with your summation as it requires a major ingredient which is missing. Accusations of wrongdoing when there is no wrongdoing do not require an answer beyond whether or not a law was broken or an unquestionable mistake made. What seems to be arising from all the false accusations as a disturbing trend is that beyond Obama revealing evidence that supports whatever the charge may be, it seems that he must reveal what is not there. What is "there in there" is a legal right for the DOJ to issue the subpoena legally. Once legality is shown, that is transparency. There is nothing to reveal beyond that.

I am a bit frustrated to see republicans make up the lies, create a hearing to demand an answer to their lies and then demand transparency from Obama's legally applied answer to their lies. The DOJ was well within their rights. The media knew full well they had to change the law and had to do it in court. It is not just the Espionage Act of 1916 either, it includes the knowledge of the media shield bill argued in 2009 and the implementation of the law that gives DOJ the right. This was LEGAL.

Whistleblowers are still free to blow whistles as that has not changed. National Interest theft of high security info that can take lives or weaken the US is not currently considered a Whistleblower. It has been tested. The Press be damned. If they want to change the law, they are really late getting started.

How about those "Benghazi whistleblowers" who testified last week after being trotted out by Issa as "whistleblowers" but who said nothing we didn't already know?

:cool:
 
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