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Bugsy McGurk

President
The crime is taking classified documents to Mar-A-Lago. Not the claim that he used his telepathic powers to declassify them.
And not fer nuthin’, but stealing the documents was a crime whether or not they are classified (which they clearly are). Not to mention the obstruction for lying to the feds, etc.
 
Try answering any of the points in my post.

Did Trump have government documents at Mar-A-Lago? Were any of those documents marked top secret? Was that a violation of the law.

Trump says he declassified the documents....but did not follow the accepted and documented process of notifying the archives or the original agency. The judge has ruled that without any paper trail of the declassification...it didn't happen.

Yet, here you are attempting to bury the facts behind spurious accusations aimed at the DoJ and FBI.
You mean all the nuclear secrets you guys told us he had!!! MY GOD!!!!!!

I have no idea what Trump had at Mar-a-lago and asking anyone with a brain to trust the FBI/DOJ to tell you the truth on any of it is pure stupidity as the accusations against them are from spurious.

New the Steele Dossier was crap, used it to lie to get FISA warrants
Spied on Trumps Campaign and later his Presidency
Hired Steele's source for the Dossier as an informant when again they knew the dossier to be bullshit.
Re-wrote Michael Flynn's interview report to make it look like he lied so he they could destroy him.
In 2020 they leaned on Social Media companies to be "on the look out for Russian Disinformation", like the shit they paid Dancshenko for.
Buried the investigation into Hunter Bidens Laptop
Went on an errand to retrieve the Diary of Joe Bidens daughter, why? Because it would damage the candidate they gracefully installed for us.
 
It's whatever they decide it is, and in this case now that the weaponizaton of the FBI/DOJ is complete, they will tell us whatever it is that will stop Trump.

The blind faith people have in our FBI is pathetic.
If you would like to learn more regarding the Weaponization of the DOJ, you should read the recent book written by former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman. He details the complete weaponization of the DOJ under Trump and Barr. He has documented and backed up every assertion. The Garland DOJ in contrast has acted according to the laws of the land and of the DOJ. The information you are posting here is the exact opposite of what has really transpired over the past 5-6 years. Instead of listening to idiots bloviating bullshit on your TV and Trump tirades perhaps you should look into what actual US Attorneys and judges have said.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You mean all the nuclear secrets you guys told us he had!!! MY GOD!!!!!!

I have no idea what Trump had at Mar-a-lago and asking anyone with a brain to trust the FBI/DOJ to tell you the truth on any of it is pure stupidity as the accusations against them are from spurious.

New the Steele Dossier was crap, used it to lie to get FISA warrants
Spied on Trumps Campaign and later his Presidency
Hired Steele's source for the Dossier as an informant when again they knew the dossier to be bullshit.
Re-wrote Michael Flynn's interview report to make it look like he lied so he they could destroy him.
In 2020 they leaned on Social Media companies to be "on the look out for Russian Disinformation", like the shit they paid Dancshenko for.
Buried the investigation into Hunter Bidens Laptop
Went on an errand to retrieve the Diary of Joe Bidens daughter, why? Because it would damage the candidate they gracefully installed for us.
1. Why did he have any of those documents? Classified or not.
2. Asking anyone with a brain what was wrong with his having government documents at Mar-a-Lago is simply bizarre. What is spurious about the facts?
3. Spied on Trump's campaign and presidency. Bullshit. Durham has yet to provide evidence of that...
4. Hired Steele? So what. Who did you think they hired?
5. He did lie and admitted it.
6. "Leaned on" or warned? So what?
7. Buried what? There is nothing there. Durham would have prosecuted any crime he found, right? What has he found?

Still waiting for the evidence that Hunter was being prepped for a deposition related to Burisma....
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
If you would like to learn more regarding the Weaponization of the DOJ, you should read the recent book written by former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman. He details the complete weaponization of the DOJ under Trump and Barr. He has documented and backed up every assertion. The Garland DOJ in contrast has acted according to the laws of the land and of the DOJ. The information you are posting here is the exact opposite of what has really transpired over the past 5-6 years. Instead of listening to idiots bloviating bullshit on your TV and Trump tirades perhaps you should look into what actual US Attorneys and judges have said.
They put Orwell to shame. They incessantly blame Biden and the Dems for tactics/wrongful conduct used only by Trump.

Example:

1. Trump repeatedly weaponized his DOJ.

2. There is absolutely no evidence Biden has in any way interfered with DOJ decision making.

3. They accuse Biden of weaponizing the DOJ.

Their dishonesty is endless.
 
If you would like to learn more regarding the Weaponization of the DOJ, you should read the recent book written by former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman. He details the complete weaponization of the DOJ under Trump and Barr. He has documented and backed up every assertion. The Garland DOJ in contrast has acted according to the laws of the land and of the DOJ. The information you are posting here is the exact opposite of what has really transpired over the past 5-6 years. Instead of listening to idiots bloviating bullshit on your TV and Trump tirades perhaps you should look into what actual US Attorneys and judges have said.
YAWN.... I am sure the book said everything you were reading... :rolleyes:
 
1. Why did he have any of those documents? Classified or not.
2. Asking anyone with a brain what was wrong with his having government documents at Mar-a-Lago is simply bizarre. What is spurious about the facts?
3. Spied on Trump's campaign and presidency. Bullshit. Durham has yet to provide evidence of that...
4. Hired Steele? So what. Who did you think they hired?
5. He did lie and admitted it.
6. "Leaned on" or warned? So what?
7. Buried what? There is nothing there. Durham would have prosecuted any crime he found, right? What has he found?

Still waiting for the evidence that Hunter was being prepped for a deposition related to Burisma....
1) Obama left with 30k boxes, are you claiming none of the contained documents? Or were they just copies of the books he wrote about himself?

2) Yes, what is wrong with a former President havin documents at his residence, which is protected by the Secret Service? You were screeching the other day that the room was unlocked!!! I still think its fine, unless of course as I said Sandy Berger drops by.

3) Trumps campaign was spied on and so was his Presidency, this is an established fact that has little or nothing to do with Durham.

4) They did not hire Steele, they hired his source for the Dossier which turned out to be a guy at the Brookings INstitute and not someone deep in Russia as the MSM told us...and right so what? They only knew the Dossier was complete shit, why not hire the guy who made it, keep using it to undermine a duly elected POTUS.

5) Flynn only confessed when our wonderful hardworking members of the DOJ threatened to prosecute his son. Exculpatory evidence in the Flynn case is on file, his report was re-written to make it look like he lied to the FBI so they could prosecute him. Again, this is another established fact that the useful idiocy refuses to deal with.... too bad so sad.

6) Really? They had the laptop for two years and knew it was not Russian Disinformation so they warned them to stop a story that was true. Leaning on Social Media companies, kill any investigation into it at the FBI, don't want to make the candidate they chose for us look bad now do we.... I mean so what right? I guess election inteference and rigging is ok when your betters do it, shoot anyone who questions it twice right Herr Cowboy.......

7) Durham is not the one looking at the lap top, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yeah, "mean" would be the polite way to put it, what they have been is gestapo lying f-cking dirtbags, just like the Democratic Party that they are now running errands for.

20 Whistleblowers on what a mess the FBI has become and counting........
So Jordan or Johnson now say they have 20 whistle blowers? So should Biden fire the whistle blowers as Trump did? Remember what happened to anyone who made statements Trump didn't like? Vindman, Krebbs, Barr, Sondland, Yovanovitch....

What, exactly, have they had to say? It would be nice to hear from them and not Jordan or Grassley.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1) Obama left with 30k boxes, are you claiming none of the contained documents? Or were they just copies of the books he wrote about himself?

2) Yes, what is wrong with a former President havin documents at his residence, which is protected by the Secret Service? You were screeching the other day that the room was unlocked!!! I still think its fine, unless of course as I said Sandy Berger drops by.

3) Trumps campaign was spied on and so was his Presidency, this is an established fact that has little or nothing to do with Durham.

4) They did not hire Steele, they hired his source for the Dossier which turned out to be a guy at the Brookings INstitute and not someone deep in Russia as the MSM told us...and right so what? They only knew the Dossier was complete shit, why not hire the guy who made it, keep using it to undermine a duly elected POTUS.

5) Flynn only confessed when our wonderful hardworking members of the DOJ threatened to prosecute his son. Exculpatory evidence in the Flynn case is on file, his report was re-written to make it look like he lied to the FBI so they could prosecute him. Again, this is another established fact that the useful idiocy refuses to deal with.... too bad so sad.

6) Really? They had the laptop for two years and knew it was not Russian Disinformation so they warned them to stop a story that was true. Leaning on Social Media companies, kill any investigation into it at the FBI, don't want to make the candidate they chose for us look bad now do we.... I mean so what right? I guess election inteference and rigging is ok when your betters do it, shoot anyone who questions it twice right Herr Cowboy.......

7) Durham is not the one looking at the lap top, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
1. Wow...yet another lie with no supporting link as evidence. The archives have stated that documents requested by Obama were shipped to a federal facility in Chicago. Not to Obama's home.


2. What's wrong? Those documents belong to the national archives and Trump illegally took them from the White House, even though he'd been warned about turning all documents over to the National Archives according to the Presidential records legislation.

3. "Established fact"? Not it isn't. Again, they spied on Carter Page. He was no longer working on the campaign. The surveillance started about a week before the election. Can you offer any evidence of communication between Page and anyone still working on the campaign? No. Where is your evidence that Trump was spied on in the White House? I keep asking and you just run away.

4. Actually the FBI paid both Steele and Danchenko. They terminated the arrangement with Steele when he violated the agreement by sharing info with media. Denchenko was a CI until October 2020.

5. The FBI warned media in 2020 about potential Russian disinformation. When did they ever tell anyone not to report on the laptop? There is still nothing about the laptop that indicates criminal acts.

6. You think Durham isn't looking at the laptop?
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Try answering any of the points in my post.

Did Trump have government documents at Mar-A-Lago? Were any of those documents marked top secret? Was that a violation of the law.

Trump says he declassified the documents....but did not follow the accepted and documented process of notifying the archives or the original agency. The judge has ruled that without any paper trail of the declassification...it didn't happen.

Yet, here you are attempting to bury the facts behind spurious accusations aimed at the DoJ and FBI.
What Judge ruled that? please cite
 
1. Wow...yet another lie with no supporting link as evidence. The archives have stated that documents requested by Obama were shipped to a federal facility in Chicago. Not to Obama's home.


2. What's wrong? Those documents belong to the national archives and Trump illegally took them from the White House, even though he'd been warned about turning all documents over to the National Archives according to the Presidential records legislation.

3. "Established fact"? Not it isn't. Again, they spied on Carter Page. He was no longer working on the campaign. The surveillance started about a week before the election. Can you offer any evidence of communication between Page and anyone still working on the campaign? No. Where is your evidence that Trump was spied on in the White House? I keep asking and you just run away.

4. Actually the FBI paid both Steele and Danchenko. They terminated the arrangement with Steele when he violated the agreement by sharing info with media. Denchenko was a CI until October 2020.

5. The FBI warned media in 2020 about potential Russian disinformation. When did they ever tell anyone not to report on the laptop? There is still nothing about the laptop that indicates criminal acts.

6. You think Durham isn't looking at the laptop?
Does bouncing your face off a brick wall hurt? You do it repeatedly.... just wondering...

Hoffman Estates is not a Federal Faciltiy and Obama's records were kept there well into 2018.

The Obama documents — both classified and unclassified —
remained in Hoffman Estates well into 2018, as evidenced by a letter of intent executed between Ferriero on behalf of the National Archives Trust Fund and the Obama Foundation. Among other things, the letter of intent memorialized the Obama Foundation’s agreement to “transfer up to three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) to the National Archives Trust Fund (NATF) to support the move of classified and unclassified Obama Presidential records and artifacts from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities that conform to the agency’s archival storage standards for such records and artifacts.”


Funny, I don't ever remember you once screaming about how many doors could be left unlocked at Hoffman Estates..... oh well, membership does have its benefits..... if your a member you can have a letter of intent to return the thousands of classified and unclassified docs.....not a member, Biden sends his person gestapo to your house...

It's f-cking pathetic that you screech like a 12 year old girl about documents belonging to the National Archives while the FBI spies on political campaigns and rigs our elections...........
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What Judge ruled that? please cite
Appeals court to Trump: No, you didn’t actually declassify those documents, there’s no evidence
Two of the three judges who issued Wednesday’s ruling — Britt Grant and Andrew Brasher — were nominated to the 11th Circuit by Trump. Judge Robin Rosenbaum was nominated by former President Barack Obama.
 
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