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Ohio botched execution

Renee said:
Nothing like killing people to show killing is wrong. It is barbaric and we are one of the only industrialized country that practices such a despicable act. I thought you were pro life....does vengeance make you feel better?
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in this case, the issue isn't the death penalty, but the botched execution.
 
Dino said:
Do you have studies that "capital punishment doesn't lower the murder rate" or do you have studies that show the murder rate is lower where there is no death penalty?

There's a HUGE difference between the two.

The "vengeance" crack is a purely partisan one. It's your own bias showing forth. Did you see any personal bias in my response to you? No, those were simply facts.
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Just google and you will find study after study. Did I see any vengeance in you? Sure, you were gleeful that he had to suffer for 15 minutes. And since when is vengeance a partisan issue? Don't you wonder why other countries see killing another to show killing is wrong, as barbaric? Here is one study.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/death-penalty-not-a-deterrent_n_1434645.html
 
Caroljo said:
The woman was 7 months pregnant....a viable baby, not a "zef". The man raped and murdered the woman and her child. The guy got what he deserved. I bet if it were your daughter and grandchild you would feel a little different about it.
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Of course I would feel the same way if it were my daughter. I would want to gouge out his eyeballs, cut off his balls and etc...but we are a civilized country but resort to this kind of barbarism .
Taking him out of society is punishment enough....
 
Renee said:
Just google and you will find study after study. Did I see any vengeance in you? Sure, you were gleeful that he had to suffer for 15 minutes. And since when is vengeance a partisan issue? Don't you wonder why other countries see killing another to show killing is wrong, as barbaric? Here is one study.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/death-penalty-not-a-deterrent_n_1434645.html
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Dino and his ilk probably believe these are all "liberal studies".

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23374844/no-credible-evidence-whether-death-penalty-deters-experts

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/theres-no-evidence-the-death-penalty-deters-crime/

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/22/u...enalty-share-lower.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
 
The fact is....the execution didn't go as "planned". Everyone is going off about it as if the state planned to make this guy suffer. That isn't a fact. I doubt they'll ever do it this way again now that they know.

Anyone here see "The Green Mile" and how the wacko guard PLANNED to make the guy being executed suffer? Now THAT was cruel and inhumane....and planned. This one was an f-up. But I still don't feel sorry for him....so he suffered for a few minutes. That woman and child he raped and murdered suffered too, and their family has been suffering for years without them. Nope, I'm kinda glad this guy felt some pain...
 
For me, this is a better alternative to the death penalty. When you kill a person for their crime, it's over. They need to think long and hard about their crimes.

What's not to like about this, cons? I would think that you, with your vengeance, would love this. Listen to this inmate talk about doing his time. Like I said, this is much better than putting him to death...

 
Caroljo said:
And like I said on Dawgs thread about this....he should have been killed the same way he killed that woman and child. So what he suffered for a few minutes!
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This TP is ironic, coming from a kook who's fine with babies having their skull bashed in, brains vacuumed out and also literally LOVES this and other abortion procedures.
 
Colorforms said:
Maybe we should just let them roam free so they can see how people in a civilized society act. We can't keep them locked up, it's undignified. And we all know poverty breeds crime, so we should pay them for roaming around among civilized folks.

Liberals are so smart.
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Great idea! And I'm sure Renee and the other bleeding hearts will be the first to open their neighborhoods and homes to these violent thugs.
 
i dont know if 15 mins. of pain is as bad as a lifetime of being caged and ignored...whats cruel?

gotta do something....and its a fact that the dead will not commit any more crimes, so it must reduce crime rates,,at least from the one executed....its a good bet,,the crime he was executed for was not his first,,,but was his last...
 
oicu812 said:
gotta do something....and its a fact that the dead will not commit any more crimes, so it must reduce crime rates,,at least from the one executed....its a good bet,,the crime he was executed for was not his first,,,but was his last...
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You can say the exact same thing about this particular inmate.
 
write on said:
For me, this is a better alternative to the death penalty. When you kill a person for their crime, it's over. They need to think long and hard about their crimes.

What's not to like about this, cons? I would think that you, with your vengeance, would love this. Listen to this inmate talk about doing his time. Like I said, this is much better than putting him to death...

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You could be right...however, why should taxpayers pay for a person to be in prison the rest of his life after he raped and murdered? The guy in the TP had already been in prison for 20 yrs!! There was no doubt that he did it, so there was no reason to keep him on death row 20 yrs while taxpayers paid for his food and lodging and whatever other costs there were.

Liberals have no problem with someone sucking the brains out of an innocent childs skull, but have a problem killing a murdering monster. Something is just not right with this!
 
Four books were written on the teachings of Jesus. We know a lot about what is "Jesus like"... People like Carol come on this forum constantly claiming she knows what God wants... Yet she claims she does not know how or what Jesus would do or say about the the treatment of this killer.
 
Zoar said:
Four books were written on the teachings of Jesus. We know a lot about what is "Jesus like"... People like Carol come on this forum constantly claiming she knows what God wants... Yet she claims she does not know how or what Jesus would do or say about the the treatment of this killer.
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Well, unless this killer turned his life over to God while he was in prison, I doubt Jesus really cared. Just my opinion....because I've never said I know what exactly what God wants.
 
Caroljo said:
You could be right...however, why should taxpayers pay for a person to be in prison the rest of his life after he raped and murdered? The guy in the TP had already been in prison for 20 yrs!! There was no doubt that he did it, so there was no reason to keep him on death row 20 yrs while taxpayers paid for his food and lodging and whatever other costs there were.

Liberals have no problem with someone sucking the brains out of an innocent childs skull, but have a problem killing a murdering monster. Something is just not right with this!
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Studies show that it costs more to execute than life without parole with the costs of appeals, psychiatrists, forensics, etc. over the years added to medical and living costs of an inmate on death row. As a civilized society(?), this must be carried out in this manner for the simple fact that quite a few innocent men have been put the death.

As far as abortion goes, if bleeding heart cons with their fake indignation cared as much for a child born as they do for a fetus, there wouldn' t be so many children waiting for adoption.
 
Caroljo said:
The fact is....the execution didn't go as "planned". Everyone is going off about it as if the state planned to make this guy suffer. That isn't a fact. I doubt they'll ever do it this way again now that they know.

Anyone here see "The Green Mile" and how the wacko guard PLANNED to make the guy being executed suffer? Now THAT was cruel and inhumane....and planned. This one was an f-up. But I still don't feel sorry for him....so he suffered for a few minutes. That woman and child he raped and murdered suffered too, and their family has been suffering for years without them. Nope, I'm kinda glad this guy felt some pain...
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Gov Kasich was warned that this cocktail of drugs would be problematic, but since cons don't believe in (medical) science, the facts were ignored.
 
 
Caroljo said:
The fact is....the execution didn't go as "planned". Everyone is going off about it as if the state planned to make this guy suffer. That isn't a fact. I doubt they'll ever do it this way again now that they know.

Anyone here see "The Green Mile" and how the wacko guard PLANNED to make the guy being executed suffer? Now THAT was cruel and inhumane....and planned. This one was an f-up. But I still don't feel sorry for him....so he suffered for a few minutes. That woman and child he raped and murdered suffered too, and their family has been suffering for years without them. Nope, I'm kinda glad this guy felt some pain...
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Ah the sweet taste if revenge.....remember his family is suffering too.
 
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