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[Caroljo]

And furthermore, Carol, Jesus made no comment to say that we can now murder with impunity. The teachings of Jesus were all about how we treat our fellow man on a personal level.

There are those who pretend that the teachings of Jesus dictate that laws must now never call for a person's life if that person commits a horrific act of murder. Jesus never spoke about the laws we have set up. Never, except when he said "render to caesar what is caesar's". That meant that we should submit to our laws that have been set up.

Those who say otherwise are wrong. And isn't it interesting that atheists, who don't believe in God or Jesus are first to quote (usually erroneously) their teachings?

Jesus said he didn't come here to abolish the laws, but to enforce them. The 10 Commandments are his laws, Thou shalt not Murder is one of them.

And right...they "don't believe" but they'll throw it in our face every time! Lol!

 

[Caroljo]

Carol, that is one of the most hateful, spiteful, jealous posts I have ever read on PJ. I can see you do not follow the important teachings of either Testament!

What? Because i told the truth? Why would that be hateful? Not one thing I said was a lie.....these are all things she's said herself, except for maybe the 'money' part, but by what she's said before i'm pretty sure I'm right.

 

[Zoar]

Hey...it's you guys that usually quote the OT on everything! DO NOT MURDER was a law, and Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the laws, but to enforce them. Most of the OT most Christians look at as "history". But there were LAWS that God put in place, and Jesus came here to fulfill those laws and enforce them. One of them is MURDER. As is all of the rest of the 10 commandments. That didn't change!

Now you are purely making things up. Really?? We lefties quote the Old Testament!?!?!? It is YOU zealous right wing hate spewers you quote the OT all the time. Just look at this thread and any thread on here today with OT quotes! Get real. Stop lying. I hear it is a sin!

 

[Renee]

Gee, you were a teacher and taught (was it?) J-Zee (or however you say his stupid name)....you write books, you volunteer at a womans prison....wow, you're just a woman of the world aren't you? I'm sure i missed a few things....but then, when someone has money as you do you can afford to do these things and spread your hateful ideas.

Do I detct a hint of jealousy? I am sorry that you see helping teaxhers manage classrooms as hateful, I am sorry you see writing books as hateful, am sorry you see teaching in inner city Brooklyn as a hateful, I am sorry you see fighting bigotry as a bad thing..( but people like you keep me working) ..by the way having money has nothing to do with the things I have accomplished that you seem to need to minimize for some reason, quite mean spirited I must say. I get paid for them, except for my volunteer work. I also volunteer withNOW and Emily's list. What are your accomplishments ?

 

[Renee]

Oh ya....then there's THIS Zoar....

The Bible states the following about Capital Punishment.

The Covenant of the Rainbow:
"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man."

Exodus 20:13
"You shall not murder".

Leviticus 24:17 And he that kills any man shall surely be put to death.

What a wonderful pick and choose....shall we stone adulterers? I hope you don't eat shellfish

 

[Caroljo]

Do I detct a hint of jealousy? I am sorry that you see helping teaxhers manage classrooms as hateful, I am sorry you see writing books as hateful, am sorry you see teaching in inner city Brooklyn as a hateful, I am sorry you see fighting bigotry as a bad thing..( but people like you keep me working) ..by the way having money has nothing to do with the things I have accomplished that you seem to need to minimize for some reason, quite mean spirited I must say. I get paid for them, except for my volunteer work. I also volunteer withNOW and Emily's list. What are your accomplishments ?

Where did I say any of that was hateful? I didn't. And no (Lol!) there's no jealousy.

 

[Renee]

Carol, that is one of the most hateful, spiteful, jealous posts I have ever read on PJ. I can see you do not follow the important teachings of either Testament!

Actually calling me a woman of the world for my accomplishments is quite a compliment , though she doesn't mean it to be. The hate thing is just opinion, the others are facts.
She is just bitter

 

[Caroljo]

What a wonderful pick and choose....shall we stone adulterers? I hope you don't eat shellfish

Where was the pick and choose....that IS what God said about "shedding blood". Which is Murder, which we're told in the 10 Commandments we are not to do.
Oh...and not eating shellfish was NOT a law.
Do you actually know what the 10 Commandments tells you?

 

[Zoar]

Eating shellfish is an abomination!

Stone them all?

Are you going to allow yourself to be stoned all you Righties you have committed such an abomination???

 

[Renee]

Where did I say any of that was hateful? I didn't. And no (Lol!) there's no jealousy.

....you are as jealous as hell or else you wouldn't be writing about my accomplishments and then adding ."I am spreading. my hate ." As I say..."if you're my friend you're happy for me...and if you're not...eat your heart out"lol

 

[Caroljo]

Actually calling me a woman of the world for my accomplishments is quite a compliment , though she doesn't mean it to be. The hate thing is just opinion, the others are facts.
She is just bitter

Nope...not bitter at all. I'm quite happy with my life. it's not perfect, but nothing is.

 

[Renee]

Where was the pick and choose....that IS what God said about "shedding blood". Which is Murder, which we're told in the 10 Commandments we are not to do.
Oh...and not eating shellfish was NOT a law.
Do you actually know what the 10 Commandments tells you?

You quote Leviticus. And pick and choose. Do you support killing adulterers? What about the kid who are fresh to their parents , shall they be killed?

 

[Renee]

Nope...not bitter at all. I'm quite happy with my life. it's not perfect, but nothing is.

So why the need to mock my achievements ? My life is all I could ask for.

 

[Caroljo]

You quote Leviticus. And pick and choose. Do you support killing adulterers? What about the kid who are fresh to their parents , shall they be killed?

I support what Jesus said about it....

Matthew 19:17-19
New International Version (NIV)

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”

Where he said "if you want to enter life, keep the commandments" means that you break the commandments and don't repent of your sins, you will NOT enter life after you body dies. Murder is the only commandment i found that God said they will have their blood shed by others as punishment. All other commandments will be handled by God. This is why we don't execute anyone but murderers. That's for God to take care of later if people don't repent for it before they die.

 

[Dawg]

Where did I say any of that was hateful? I didn't. And no (Lol!) there's no jealousy.

ya know, all of what you posted wouldn't have been known if renee didn't post it for the posters to know, you left out all that money her husband made working on wall street.....and reading her post is like reading a third graders.......maybe she post all that greatness hoping people will be jealous.........I'd rather be homeless than be renee☻

 

[Caroljo]

Now you are purely making things up. Really?? We lefties quote the Old Testament!?!?!? It is YOU zealous right wing hate spewers you quote the OT all the time. Just look at this thread and any thread on here today with OT quotes! Get real. Stop lying. I hear it is a sin!

Yes...MANY do. Maybe not all of you, but 8 out of 10 times libs try to tell Christians where they're going wrong by quoting the OT. I am not making anything up...hell, Gecko has done that so many times I couldn't count them. You're either blind or stupid...which is it?

 

[Dawg]

Nope...not bitter at all. I'm quite happy with my life. it's not perfect, but nothing is.

my gawd she's a self-centered witch.............it's LOOK-AT-ME-I'M GREAT and you are below me.........makes me wonder why she thinks anyone gives a damn about all she post she does. Guess she's hoping someone tells her how great she is........she has more hate inside her than Mooch does☻

 

[Charcat]

Is there any evidence that he was conscious when he went through the dying process? I would say the drugs given to him had him completely unconscious and what was seen was the body's reaction.

 

[Caroljo]

So why the need to mock my achievements ? My life is all I could ask for.

Hey...I have nothing against people that have achievements like that. I don't care for them when they flaunt it around, but that's their problem. And since you're an unbeliever, I hope you enjoy those accomplishments now, have a GREAT life while you still have it. Because when yours ends, it ends. Unless by some miracle something happens to open your eyes and let you see where you've been wrong for so long. So there is still a chance for you. It's happened to others before.....many others.

 

[Zoar]

I support what Jesus said about it....

Matthew 19:17-19
New International Version (NIV)

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”

Where he said "if you want to enter life, keep the commandments" means that you break the commandments and don't repent of your sins, you will NOT enter life after you body dies. Murder is the only commandment i found that God said they will have their blood shed by others as punishment. All other commandments will be handled by God. This is why we don't execute anyone but murderers. That's for God to take care of later if people don't repent for it before they die.

Which commandment commands Capital Punishment???

None!!!! You Righties are making it up again!