Roger that...
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georgephillip
Senator
Your link:
"While on the campaign trail in 1972, Hunter S. Thomson issued a dire warning that is more true today than it ever has been.
"He warned us about what would happen to the country if we continued along the destructive path he noticed nearly 45 years ago. He observed that if Americans continued to accept 'lesser of two evilism' the only thing we’d end up with would be increased evil."
Is it my imagination or are Dick and Spiro starting to look good?
Lukey
Senator
I don't know, they were pretty bad, but the lesson he was trying to teach is that sort of quality of candidate was becoming the norm. Who knows, maybe the winners have always been the bad guys. You have to be a borderline personality disorder manic to want to be President in the first place.
georgephillip
Senator
I think "psychopath" is another noun that's often useful when referring to politicians; they regularly seem indifferent to whether their words are reflecting their thoughts on a particular subject, and they are all willing to say pretty much whatever they are paid to say. Finding a way to reduce the influence of private (corporate) money on public elections seems like a good starting point for electing an improved brand of maniac?
Lukey
Senator
I agree but the problem is the left wants their "special interests" (like trial lawyers, labor unions and the environmental industrial complex) exempted from any limits, and focus only on businesses and the wealthy.
georgephillip
Senator
The left wants those who get rich from polluting this planet to pay their fair share in its cleanup.
I suspect there would be far fewer vast private fortunes without capitalism's ability to socialize costs
Lukey
Senator
The left wants those who get rich from polluting this planet to pay their fair share in its cleanup.
I suspect there would be far fewer vast private fortunes without capitalism's ability to socialize costs
I tend to agree with you but is the target really the company? Or the users of its products and/or services? It would seem to me that it should fall on the everyone more or less equally, as being the most efficient way of assessing those costs. I'm a fan of a simple carbon tax as a good first step in this direction. Charge it at the production source and let users pay by how much they use. Other areas of environmentalism are not as clear cut and might be best dealt with through social enterprises designed to offer innovative ways for businesses and individuals to do good things because decent incentives exist for doing them - not fiat regulation.
C
Capitalist
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The problem is you'll never ever be able to pin down this ghostly fairy known as "fair share."The left wants those who get rich from polluting this planet to pay their fair share in its cleanup.
I suspect there would be far fewer vast private fortunes without capitalism's ability to socialize costs
And you still don't know how to convince the uber-wealthy to slit their own throats. Having said that I need to remind the reader of my solution to the problem:
It is FAR easier to convince the nation to vote for politicians of high character who have a track record of resisting influence than it is to convince the wealthy that they should give up their power in business and politics to the democratic rabble and adopt a form of corporatism/socialism that promises (but never delivers) social equality and egalitarianism.
Electing descent leaders who resist party, corporate, and special interests short circuits the vicious cycle. We've seen the guiding light and are searching for those leaders. They MAY be of the form of Ben Sass, Jason Chaffetz, and Mike Lee. We've certainly been duped along the way by the likes of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. These are the formidable bumps in the road. But the search continues.
Meanwhile, Soros is still Soros, Gates is still Gates, and the CFR is still the CFR.
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georgephillip
Senator
Guiding light?
Ben Sasse??
Really???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Sasse#Career_and_politics
"In July 2007, Sasse was nominated by President George W. Bush to the post of Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.[9][10] His appointment was confirmed by the Senate in December 2007[11] and served until the end of the Bush Administration in January 2009."
What does your guiding light tell you about Dubya's high character and his track record of resisting influence?
Are you a registered Republican?
Lukey
Senator
I might not have picked him as an example, but Chaffe and Lee are the kinds of guys the "get" that big governmentism is what is killing out economy (and ultimately our country).
georgephillip
Senator
Seems highly unlikely (to me, at least) any incumbent Republican or Democrat "gets" the political economics of capitalism, particularly its reliance on eternal war and endless debt.
Do you happen to know where they get their campaign money from?
