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Romney to privatize Social Security

JuliefromOhio

JuliefromOhio

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end Medicare as we know it, turn Medicaid over to the states, etc.

the rightwing pols and pundits who are complaining about Romney's timid approach to campaigning want him to SHOUT OUT these republican policy positions....to excite the base.

I truly wish he would do just that.....and see how far it gets him.

LOL
 
poor, pathetic Romney. he can't say out loud what the rightwingnuts would expect him to do if he actually won the election. and he can't say "moderate" stuff or his base will stay home and make it impossible for him to win.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
poor, pathetic Romney. he can't say out loud what the rightwingnuts would expect him to do if he actually won the election. and he can't say "moderate" stuff or his base will stay home and make it impossible for him to win.
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I agree, Julie. Romney's biggest obstacle to victory is the drag the GOP/TP-Ryan budget places on Romney's latitude to make appeals to the non-base parts of the political spectrum.
 
Was The A Lie you just top posted? Link to where Romney will privatize Social Security? AND are you aware that ObamaCare gutted Medicare to the tune of over a half trillion dollars?

Altogether, ObamaCare cuts $818 billion from Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) from 2014-2023, the first 10 years of its full implementation, and $3.2 trillion over the first 20 years, 2014-2033. Adding in ObamaCare cuts for Medicare Part B (physicians fees and other services) brings the total cut to $1.05 trillion over the first 10 years and $4.95 trillion over the first 20 years.

These draconian cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, hospitals and other health-care providers that serve America's seniors were the basis for the Congressional Budget Office's official "score"—repeatedly cited by the president—that the health-reform legislation would actually reduce the federal deficit. But Mr. Obama never disclosed how that deficit reduction would actually be achieved.


Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html


JuliefromOhio said:
end Medicare as we know it, turn Medicaid over to the states, etc.

the rightwing pols and pundits who are complaining about Romney's timid approach to campaigning want him to SHOUT OUT these republican policy positions....to excite the base.

I truly wish he would do just that.....and see how far it gets him.

LOL
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I suspect that many potential Romney voters don't believe that he will actually do any of these things if he's elected. The GOP has a long history of ranting about social wedge issues during the campaign and then doing nothing to address the issues when they gain majority control. Moderate Republican voters (if any such voters remain) probably just see Romney's right-wing rhetoric as necessary nonsense to pacify the radical wing of the Party. I fear, however, that we're dealing with a much more radicalized Republican Party in 2012 than what we've been accustomed to in the past. The lunatic fringe is now becoming the mainstream in the GOP.
 
NightSwimmer: necessary nonsense to pacify the radical wing of the Party

LeRoy: Why don't we just issue a pacifier to each of them? Would that work? [It works for babies, usually.]
 
Even a paci won't help a baby with the colic... and I've never seen a worse case of it than with the 2012 GOP base!
 
The GOP has a long history of ranting about social wedge issues during the campaign and then doing nothing to address the issues when they gain majority control.
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nobody expected republicans to make abortion services inaccessible......but they did it in several states.

nobody expected republicans to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters....but they did it.

nobody expected republicans to gut state education budgets......but they did it.

nobody expected republicans to go after union rights......but they did.
 
NCmusicman said:
Was The A Lie you just top posted? Link to where Romney will privatize Social Security? AND are you aware that ObamaCare gutted Medicare to the tune of over a half trillion dollars?

Altogether, ObamaCare cuts $818 billion from Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) from 2014-2023, the first 10 years of its full implementation, and $3.2 trillion over the first 20 years, 2014-2033. Adding in ObamaCare cuts for Medicare Part B (physicians fees and other services) brings the total cut to $1.05 trillion over the first 10 years and $4.95 trillion over the first 20 years.

These draconian cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, hospitals and other health-care providers that serve America's seniors were the basis for the Congressional Budget Office's official "score"—repeatedly cited by the president—that the health-reform legislation would actually reduce the federal deficit. But Mr. Obama never disclosed how that deficit reduction would actually be achieved.


Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html
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those cuts to Medicare were agreed upon by the hospitals and medical providers because they knew the individual mandate would bring them more $$ than they could ever imagine. it's a win-win for all.
 
NCmusicman said:
Was The A Lie you just top posted? Link to where Romney will privatize Social Security? AND are you aware that ObamaCare gutted Medicare to the tune of over a half trillion dollars?

Altogether, ObamaCare cuts $818 billion from Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) from 2014-2023, the first 10 years of its full implementation, and $3.2 trillion over the first 20 years, 2014-2033. Adding in ObamaCare cuts for Medicare Part B (physicians fees and other services) brings the total cut to $1.05 trillion over the first 10 years and $4.95 trillion over the first 20 years.

These draconian cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, hospitals and other health-care providers that serve America's seniors were the basis for the Congressional Budget Office's official "score"—repeatedly cited by the president—that the health-reform legislation would actually reduce the federal deficit. But Mr. Obama never disclosed how that deficit reduction would actually be achieved.


Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html
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NC, the GOP/TP is in a bit of a conundrum when it comes to medicare cuts.

On the one hand, the GOP/TP equates the PPACA with 'death panels' because of the medicare cuts. On the other hand, the GOP/TP complains that Obama won't put entitlements on the table in budget deficit negotiations.

On the third hand, the GOP/TP makes the very same medicare cuts in it's own House-passed budgets.

IMO, the only way the GOP/TP escapes it's medicare conundrum (and the larger Ryan budget) is to embark upon a strategy of confusing the electorate. I'm guessing the average voter is a little more hip than the tea baggers of 2009-2010 were.
 
... no links to such outrageous accusations is not a good trait.

JuliefromOhio said:
those cuts to Medicare were agreed upon by the hospitals and medical providers because they knew the individual mandate would bring them more $$ than they could ever imagine. it's a win-win for all.
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The question was whether Romney embraced privatizing social security. Romney has endorsed the Ryan budget. It means that up to 1/3 of social security payroll taxes can be diverted into private accounts.

So the answer is yes, Romney and the GOP/TP are in favor of privatizing up to 1/3 of social security funding.

Further, if appears that Romney and the GOP/TP want to have the government guarantee the account value is worth the original investment indexed for inflation. That should send up a red flag because today's markets are more attuned to acquiring someone else's wealth than in creating new wealth. And it means the public is on the hook for private retirement account investors bad decisions.
 
It seems to me I've heard that song before, it's from an old familiar score, I know it well that melody
Please have them play it again, so it can help remember just when, I heard that lovely song before.

The only thing Mitt will probably do if elected is shit and then only if he eats the words he's wasting with his ludicrous promises.

He's going to do what the first day? Here's a piece of history to top. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And that is questionable! What Mister Fixit is going to learn, as Obama has, that the first day is all about ceremony, pomp and circumstance, parades and parties.

Gramps



JuliefromOhio said:
end Medicare as we know it, turn Medicaid over to the states, etc.

the rightwing pols and pundits who are complaining about Romney's timid approach to campaigning want him to SHOUT OUT these republican policy positions....to excite the base.

I truly wish he would do just that.....and see how far it gets him.

LOL
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SS is a third rail in politics. If Romney wins he will not touch it like every other President before him. Political rhetoric is not action. Imo
 
2 wolves and a single sheep voting on what is for dinner.
We allow 1/2 of the pop to pay no federal income taxes all the while we allow them to vote for an ever growing govt for which they know that they will not be forced to pay for.

SIck
 
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