School sentinels

[PhilFish]

More states seeking to arm teachers..

http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.c...tes-move-to-put-guns-in-classrooms/?hpt=hp_t1

Armed guards? maybe. But armed teachers? As the particle indicates..frought with risk

 

[connieb]

I have no objection if schools want to put armed police - but yeah... I don't know if I want them thinking any ol'e teacher with a few weeks of training should be in charge of taking down an attacker. Maybe if the teacher has some other military or police background..., etc. But, they shouldn't be considered the first line of defense or anything.

 

[GordonGecko]

Even armed guards poses a risk, Phil.

What will Wayne LaPierre say the first time one of those guards "loses it"? "Put armed guards on the armed guards in schools"???

 

[PhilFish]

Even armed guards poses a risk, Phil.

What will Wayne LaPierre say the first time one of those guards "loses it"? "Put armed guards on the armed guards in schools"???

"teabagger"

maybe............?

 

[NightSwimmer]

As the particle indicates..frought with risk

That particle can easily be waved off.

 

[GordonGecko]

"teabagger"

maybe............?

More likely than "Muslim"...given the xenophobia in this country.

But (as noted during the aftermath of Sandy Hook and LaPierre's suggestion)...run the numbers.

90,000 public schools in the country. An armed guard in each. If 0.05% of those guards slips through a screening process and turns out to be a psychopath we just gave a gun to and put in a school.....

how many Sandy Hooks do you get?

 

[connieb]

Even armed guards poses a risk, Phil.

What will Wayne LaPierre say the first time one of those guards "loses it"? "Put armed guards on the armed guards in schools"???

Well I would agree with like armed security guards. But, what about police officer's? Are they any more likely to "loose it" than any other police officer? If the cops get called to the school, they still carry their guns on their hips, etc.

 

[PhilFish]

Well I would agree with like armed security guards. But, what about police officer's? Are they any more likely to "loose it" than any other police officer? If the cops get called to the school, they still carry their guns on their hips, etc.

I remember as a kid in grade school..the local officer assigned to our area would 'visit' the school at various times throughout the week. As part of his 'beat'. No agenda, no need per se...just did. Would be a worthwhile presence imho

 

[PhilFish]

That particle can easily be waved off.

damn particulates.

 

[connieb]

I remember as a kid in grade school..the local officer assigned to our area would 'visit' the school at various times throughout the week. As part of his 'beat'. No agenda, no need per se...just did. Would be a worthwhile presence imho

I agree. Heck - just leave a few in their cars running a radar trap out infront of the school and it would likely be enough of a deterrent. Win win - get a few extra dollars in ticket fines... and a would be criminal may decide that going into a school where the cop is sitting out front isn't the easiest target.

 

[NightSwimmer]

damn particulates.

Q: Why are quantum physicists bad lovers?

A: Because when they find the position, they can't discern the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.

 

[freyasman]

More states seeking to arm teachers..

http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.c...tes-move-to-put-guns-in-classrooms/?hpt=hp_t1

Armed guards? maybe. But armed teachers? As the particle indicates..frought with risk

If the teacher wants to carry and has the training, then let them.... they're the ones who have skin in the game.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Q: Why are quantum physicists bad lovers?

A: Because when they find the position, they can't discern the momentum, and when they have the momentum, they can't find the position.

Hey, that's hilarious. I thought I had heard EVERY physics joke before, but that's a new one on me!

I've always been fond of this limerick:

There was a young fellow from Trinity
Who took the square root of infinity;
But the number of digits
Gave him the fidgets---
He dropped math, and took up divinity.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

If the teacher wants to carry and has the training, then let them.... they're the ones who have skin in the game.

I think the assistant principal at my school may start storing a gun in his office next year. He's a very experienced hunter. But I really don't think we would want guns in the classrooms. Too accessible to the students.

 

[freyasman]

I think the assistant principal at my school may start storing a gun in his office next year. He's a very experienced hunter. But I really don't think we would want guns in the classrooms. Too accessible to the students.

It's a big responsibility, no doubt, but if we're willing to trust them with young minds.....

 

[PhilFish]

If the teacher wants to carry and has the training, then let them.... they're the ones who have skin in the game.

sound reasonable enough to me

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

It's a big responsibility, no doubt, but if we're willing to trust them with young minds.....

I don't follow the logic of this. A student cannot come and 'grab' my mind; but if they know I have a gun stored in my desk, they might indeed try to come and grab that. And if I happened to be in a different part of the classroom, I certainly might not be able to prevent them from doing that.

No. I do not think it is wise to have guns in the classroom, even if the teacher is highly trained in their use.

 

[freyasman]

I don't follow the logic of this. A student cannot come and 'grab' my mind; but if they know I have a gun stored in my desk, they might indeed try to come and grab that. And if I happened to be in a different part of the classroom, I certainly might not be able to prevent them from doing that.

No. I do not think it is wise to have guns in the classroom, even if the teacher is highly trained in their use.

I was thinking they'd keep it on their person at all times, that's really the only way to be sure it's safe. I would worry about someone getting ill and collapsing, or tripping and hitting their head; that would be when they might lose the gun to a light fingered student.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

I was thinking they'd keep it on their person at all times, that's really the only way to be sure it's safe. I would worry about someone getting ill and collapsing, or tripping and hitting their head; that would be when they might lose the gun to a light fingered student.

Well, you may disagree, but I think the idea of a teacher in a classroom being constantly armed, alters the entire atmosphere of the classroom, and NOT in a good way. I think it would seriously detract from the learning that SHOULD be going on in a classroom. In contrast, the assistant principal's office is ALWAYS locked, if he is not there. So he could store a firearm in there, and it would not have any material effect on classroom 'atmosphere'.

 

[fairsheet]

As I see it, the teacher who packed heat would be a godamned fool. And, the school district that allowed it, would be foolish x 10. It's about the potential liability.