“Settled science” overturned again – low fat diets are killing us

[as seen on tv]

"This is low fat you say? Must be healthy then. May I have another, ser . . . ?"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/29/low-fat-diet-linked-higher-death-rates-major-lancet-study-finds/

Want to increase your chance of early death by 25% or more? Just adopt a low fat diet, as recommended by the government. Not just our government, but also the UK (national health service), Canada, and virtually every other nation where taxpayer employed scientists tell us to shut up and do as told. See link above – everything we’ve been told is wrong. Again.

If you weren’t born yesterday, you probably remember when the USDA “food pyramid” (no relation to the authentic pyramids constructed by Egyptians) at one point or another asserted the ALL of the following:

• Eggs are killers – in any form
  
  
• Margarine is healthier than butter
  
  
• Avoid all fats.
  
  
• Avoid saturated fats.
  
  
• Avoid red meats.
  
  
• Eat lots of fish.
  
  
• Avoid fish – it’s full of mercury.
  
  
• Eat farmed fish.
  
  
• Avoid farmed fish – they’re full of diseases, and bad for the environment.
  
  
• Avoid peanuts.
  
  
• Give peanuts – sparingly – to toddlers, so they develop a natural immunity
  
  
• Carbohydrates are the most basic and important food type
  
  
• Avoid white flour
  
  
• Avoid gluten
  
  
• Rice is bad for you too
  
  
• Salt is bad for you
  
  
• And cheese; and milk; and yogurt; and . . .
  

Quick – what’s at the “top” of the food pyramid this month? What are the odds it will change again with little to no warning? What are the odds the NEXT version will be the final one?

Organic foods are safer, right? Yet you can’t find a single study linking organic foods to a longer, healthier life. Or vegetarian diets. Or low salt diets. Add “low fat” diets to the list of shibboleths that have now been debunked.

What’s now at the “base” of the pyramid – things we should (allegedly) consume the most of?

Ahem – that would be fresh fruits, juices made from fresh fruits, tomatoes, and so and so forth to lesser/unpopular vegetables. (full disclosure - I had fried brussel sprouts sunday night. Every bit as bad as I remembered them).

Trivia question – what gives fresh fruit their appealing taste? That would be sugar – the same item which vies with Salt for restriction/elimination at the top of the food pyramid.

My conclusion – just eat whatever you like. In moderation. There is NO ITEM on the food pyramid you can bulk up on that’s going to give you a good outcome.

Full disclosure – ASOT is not a medical professional. But she does not smoke, drinks in moderation, and avoids folk remedies like pot, drinking vinegar, teas brewed with unknown/mislabeled leaves, uppers, downers, and pomegranate (flavor of the day) drinks that cost 10-20X what natural apple juice does.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

I'm glad you brought this up. My sister has lost 50 pounds eating a diet that's 80% fat calories. Apparently there's still a big Atkins-style movement, various "factions". My sister got the idea from this guy. I still chuckle at the title. Check out his "before" picture at 1:06. He lost 145 pounds.

Oh and my brother has done the same thing- and his cholesterol DROPPED.

Now excuse me, but I'm going to drink my spinach-kale-cilantro-OJ-flaxseed smoothie.

 

[as seen on tv]

I'm glad you brought this up. My sister has lost 50 pounds eating a diet that's 80% fat calories. Apparently there's still a big Atkins-style movement, various "factions". My sister got the idea from this guy. I still chuckle at the title. Check out his "before" picture at 1:06. He lost 145 pounds.

Oh and my brother has done the same thing- and his cholesterol DROPPED.

Now excuse me, but I'm going to drink my spinach-kale-cilantro-OJ-flaxseed smoothie.

my brother (like 20 years ago) went from flab to fab. he placed 7th in an amateur body building contest. here's his secret, as best as I can remember it:

• If it's cooked, don't eat it.
• You can eat cooked meats/fish if its skinless chicken or shrimp, grilled not fried
• you can eat steamed/baked vegetables, as long you don't add butter or salt
• no bread- its cooked
• any non-fat dairy is okay
• cereals without added sugar are okay (cheerios, shredded wheat, etc)
• salads with low fat dressings are okay
• no barbecue sauce, salt and pepper, or other condiments to make food taste better so that you'll eat more of it.

granted, this is somewhat extreme. but he was in an extreme sport. I don't think anyone can keep that up for a lifetime. he certainly gave up when he decided he'd "gone as far as he could" without steroids and other supplements.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

my brother (like 20 years ago) went from flab to fab. he placed 7th in an amateur body building contest. here's his secret, as best as I can remember it:

• If it's cooked, don't eat it.
• You can eat cooked meats/fish if its skinless chicken or shrimp, grilled not fried
• you can eat steamed/baked vegetables, as long you don't add butter or salt
• no bread- its cooked
• any non-fat dairy is okay
• cereals without added sugar are okay (cheerios, shredded wheat, etc)
• salads with low fat dressings are okay
• no barbecue sauce, salt and pepper, or other condiments to make food taste better so that you'll eat more of it.

granted, this is somewhat extreme. but he was in an extreme sport. I don't think anyone can keep that up for a lifetime. he certainly gave up when he decided he'd "gone as far as he could" without steroids and other supplements.

I especially love the "if it's cooked, don't eat it" part. Let's face it: cooking kills. And in the case of vegetables, there's no question lots of good stuff dies when they're cooked.

I have found that sugar and grains are simply not good for me. I avoid

Anyway, I love the list. I think in the end, people are different. I have a friend who lives off fast food and he maintains a healthy weight. If I even look at a burger combo meal, I gain 5 pounds.

Oh and one other thing: taste buds adjust. The less sugar I eat, the less condiments I need. The other day I saw a jar of "honey roasted peanut butter" in my cupboard. I had a spoonful- it tasted SO SWEET. But right now, I'm pretty well on my game. When I'm not on my game, I can and do eat a half gallon of ice cream in an evening.

 

[as seen on tv]

I especially love the "if it's cooked, don't eat it" part. Let's face it: cooking kills. And in the case of vegetables, there's no question lots of good stuff dies when they're cooked.

I have found that sugar and grains are simply not good for me. I avoid

Anyway, I love the list. I think in the end, people are different. I have a friend who lives off fast food and he maintains a healthy weight. If I even look at a burger combo meal, I gain 5 pounds.

Oh and one other thing: taste buds adjust. The less sugar I eat, the less condiments I need. The other day I saw a jar of "honey roasted peanut butter" in my cupboard. I had a spoonful- it tasted SO SWEET. But right now, I'm pretty well on my game. When I'm not on my game, I can and do eat a half gallon of ice cream in an evening.

I ran into a gluten free co-worker the other day, when I brought donuts and bagels to a meeting. she made a point of announcing her dietary restrictions.

which is her right.

but she outweighed me by 20-30 pounds. I resisted the urge to ask how long she'd been gluten free. since her own glutes were well padded. resisted the urge. I play nicer in the workplace than I do on posting boards.

 

[Zam-Zam]

I'll be the big 6-0 in a few months, but still manage to run five miles a day five times a week, and work out three times a week. I've been Blessed with good genes,but I also pay attention to what I eat and try to use common sense. No fad diets, no gimmicks, and also no junk food. I've been doing it that way since I was in High School (trying to impress girls), so now it's habit, and I can't imagine living any other way. It's been remarkably easy, and I feel great.

Now I'll probably get run over by a Whole Foods truck.......:>)

 

[connieb]

They

"This is low fat you say? Must be healthy then. May I have another, ser . . . ?"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/29/low-fat-diet-linked-higher-death-rates-major-lancet-study-finds/

Want to increase your chance of early death by 25% or more? Just adopt a low fat diet, as recommended by the government. Not just our government, but also the UK (national health service), Canada, and virtually every other nation where taxpayer employed scientists tell us to shut up and do as told. See link above – everything we’ve been told is wrong. Again.

If you weren’t born yesterday, you probably remember when the USDA “food pyramid” (no relation to the authentic pyramids constructed by Egyptians) at one point or another asserted the ALL of the following:

• Eggs are killers – in any form
  
  
• Margarine is healthier than butter
  
  
• Avoid all fats.
  
  
• Avoid saturated fats.
  
  
• Avoid red meats.
  
  
• Eat lots of fish.
  
  
• Avoid fish – it’s full of mercury.
  
  
• Eat farmed fish.
  
  
• Avoid farmed fish – they’re full of diseases, and bad for the environment.
  
  
• Avoid peanuts.
  
  
• Give peanuts – sparingly – to toddlers, so they develop a natural immunity
  
  
• Carbohydrates are the most basic and important food type
  
  
• Avoid white flour
  
  
• Avoid gluten
  
  
• Rice is bad for you too
  
  
• Salt is bad for you
  
  
• And cheese; and milk; and yogurt; and . . .

Quick – what’s at the “top” of the food pyramid this month? What are the odds it will change again with little to no warning? What are the odds the NEXT version will be the final one?

Organic foods are safer, right? Yet you can’t find a single study linking organic foods to a longer, healthier life. Or vegetarian diets. Or low salt diets. Add “low fat” diets to the list of shibboleths that have now been debunked.

What’s now at the “base” of the pyramid – things we should (allegedly) consume the most of?

Ahem – that would be fresh fruits, juices made from fresh fruits, tomatoes, and so and so forth to lesser/unpopular vegetables. (full disclosure - I had fried brussel sprouts sunday night. Every bit as bad as I remembered them).

Trivia question – what gives fresh fruit their appealing taste? That would be sugar – the same item which vies with Salt for restriction/elimination at the top of the food pyramid.

My conclusion – just eat whatever you like. In moderation. There is NO ITEM on the food pyramid you can bulk up on that’s going to give you a good outcome.

Full disclosure – ASOT is not a medical professional. But she does not smoke, drinks in moderation, and avoids folk remedies like pot, drinking vinegar, teas brewed with unknown/mislabeled leaves, uppers, downers, and pomegranate (flavor of the day) drinks that cost 10-20X what natural apple juice does.

Yeah it quietly came out a while ago that for most people dietary cholesterol does not impact cholesterol in the body.

Low fat foods just made up the fat with empty carbs. but fat affects satiety so people who eat low fat can end up eating more total calories.

I have always struggled to stay s normal healthy weight. For me I need to limit simple carbs and eat a lot of fruits, veggies and proteins. It sounds simple but the s stuff I actually want to eat are chips, breads and anything covered in cheese. If I had a sweet tooth too I would probably be fat.