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The Last Days

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The Day of the Lord

Days


If you read the prophets of the Old Testament, you keep seeing this same vision, predicting these events, throughout the entire 1000 years of writings. The prophets all differed according to their times and the concerns of those times, but they agreed on one item; the Day of the Lord was coming!

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:5


So what was that? The evening is the sun going down, the evening watch was 6-9pm, then you have the night watch 9-12pm, then you have the midnight watch 12pm-3am, then you have the morning watch 3-6am, the morning is when the sun comes up.

The day of the Lord begins with the setting sun. This was the end of the Age of Law, which Jesus ended when he nailed the ordinances to the cross. All through the Age of Law, the prophets kept the testimony of the Lord shining bright; the presence of the Lord was upon the prophets and concealed in the holy of holies, hiding in the Ark of the testament; finally, these two were combined with Jesus, who was both the embodiment of God and the messiah; the anointed presence of his power. The Jews in Judah should have recognized Jesus from the scriptures, he was a continuation of the testimony of the Law, fulfilling it to the letter and shining it to the Gentiles. Jesus was the sunset of that day and age. But his appearing was also the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Then came the night; the darkness; the Church Age. Just as the prophets testified against the priests and kings of the old testament, Jesus kept the faithful of the flock upon the watch tower of the church and they testified against the beast in Rome; that most the world recognized as his church, but Jesus called it Babylon and a whore and anti-Christ. Before the dawn of the reformation, Jesus gave us a morning star, and his ministry led to the dawn of the new day...


John Wycliffe (1330-1384), called the Morning Star of the Reformation, spent most of his life teaching at Oxford University and was recognized by John of Guant (The Duke of Lancaster) as extraordinarily gifted in theology. He translated the Latin Vulgate Bible into English and placed it in the hands of the people. (Link)

Okay, so see this vision the same way the prophets delivered it to us; the entire Church Age (which runs from Jesus 1st coming to Jesus 2nd coming) is the time of his anointing; the personal work of his ministry; that anointing was the work of the prophets all through the days of the law under Moses, but now in these last days, it is all the work of the resurrected messiah; it is his anointing resting on the entire body of Christ; hence, the entire Age is all one work; this is his time; this is the day of his anointing; the Day of the Lord.



So, let's look back at the construction of the Day of the Lord as revealed by the Apocalypse of John, and let's align the time periods with the evening watch, night watch, midnight watch and morning watch... I'll put the watches in red to the right of the scrolls/letters.

Okay, so see the dispensation with me. A letter is written, which means an ambassador (angel) is sent out, the performance of the letter builds the church in that letter. In heaven there's the testimony of the holy spirit before the throne, the lamp of fire, which is the angel of the letter (the author and ambassador is the holy spirit), and there's also the church that is built up, the lampstand of testimony, which is the performance of the holy spirit in the saints. Since we are practically to the end of this prophecy/vision, we can map out the time line....

A door is opened and John is caught up into heaven, he is shown - in a vision - what will happen next on earth. Specifically, he is shown what God is going to do on earth, so he is shown the intentions of the holy spirit for the church Age. He is shown the building of the church - which is already in progress in 96 AD - followed by the Day of the Lord, the central theme of prophecy in the old testament. It is a progression, the same as a sun rising in the sky, first comes the night, then the new day, the 7 letters are the night, the seven seals are the new day.

This is pretty much how the years panned out...



first coming ........ 27-30 ............................... sunset

1st Letter ............. 30-96 ............................... evening watch (dusk)
2nd Letter ........... 96-225 ............................. night watch
3rd Letter ............ 225-600 .......................... night watch
4th Letter ............ 600-1390 ........................ midnight watch
5th Letter ............ 1390-1500 ....................... morning watch
6th Letter ............ 1500-1611 ........................ morning watch
7th Letter ............ 1611-1850 ........................ morning watch

1st Seal ................ 1850-1900 ....................... dawn
2nd Seal .............. 1900-1950 ....................... dawn
3rd Seal ............... 1950-2000 ...................... dawn
4th Seal ............... 2000-2016 ...................... dawn
5th Seal ............... 2016-2028 ...................... dawn
6th Seal ............... 2028 ............................... sunrise
7th Seal ................ 2028-2032 .................... 2nd coming

As revealed in the prophets; the Day of the Lord is the entire Church age, which is simply the evening, night, and morning; with the presence of the Lord depicted as the shining sun. Notice the 6th seal is the sign of the son of man; which is the tip of the sun rising above the horizon, while the 3 ½ year ministry of the first coming is depicted as the setting sun and the 3 ½ year ministry of the 2nd coming is depicted as the rising sun.
 

Days

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Jen

What will that 2nd coming look like here.........to us?



Days


Well, first notice that I had a razor focus on the 3 ½ year ministry... which is just the beginning of the 2nd coming. That should look very much like the first coming; the anointing of the God head resting upon a man born in the flesh... actually two men. But don't expect the same works as the first coming; Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead and gave sight to the blind (but never made the deaf hear) - Jesus preached the good news of salvation - the first coming revealed the grace of God upon all mankind... while the 2nd coming is in judgment of mankind and reveals the anger of God upon all of man's disobedience to the grace of God. If you ask me, the 2nd coming makes no sense in terms of revealing Jesus Christ, because it is a return to old testament works. But I guess that's because the 2nd coming is a visitation upon all the flesh that has rejected the first coming. So, the 2nd coming ministry looks like old testament plagues and death and blistering anger and condemnation. It is easy to see why the flesh of the nations that is following the Beast and facing this anger from God, testified by these two messiahs, learn to hate the two witnesses.

There's a double dose of plagues for the Beast, after the anti-Christ kills the 2 witnesses, they resurrect and ascend to heaven, from which another 3 ½ years of plagues are poured out upon the flesh following the Beast. Finally, after that 2nd ministry from heaven, then the saints return with Christ to physically overthrow the government of the Beast... a government already set up in Israel today. That government will be located in Jerusalem, so watch for Israel to move their capital to Jerusalem, because it will happen.



Jen

I’ll probably be dead by then…...... so I'll have a safer vantage point.



Days


heh, If you dig deeper into the anointing, it begins in chapter 3 of Zechariah, with an early anointing upon the witness for the Son. His ministry extends from the 3rd seal on... and never really ends. Then, at the end of Zechariah chapter 4 we see the anointing of both witnesses; that's where the 3 ½ year ministry of the 2nd coming begins. All four witnesses (2 for Jesus and 2 for Satan) are walking around on the planet right now... and have been for most of your life, so you are by no means safe!

Look at the dawn of the new day; more and more light is pouring into the heavens as the sun gets closer and closer - the anointing of the high priest upon the witness for the Son (In Zechariah chapter 3) pours more light into the dawn at that moment when the feeling goes from light in the east to light in the whole sky. In the apocalypse, there is this angel rising in the east that lights the incense altar and casts the prayers of the saints as judgment upon the earth... the early part of that ministry is as a star rising in the east, the strengthening of the dawn light. We have all been part of that ministry, and the dawn is so strong now; the whole earth is filled with the light of the returning Christ; everyone knows it is coming.


So, if you stop to think about it, we have the presence of the Lord's anointing at work upon us already. That clothing of the high priesthood anointing happened Jan 1st, 1987... since that time, the heavenly priesthood of Jesus has been hard at work down here on earth, it's like an early return, minus the kingship. That's what psalm 87 was talking about when it said the most high himself would establish this current work; the man child (baby boy) that gets produced is the direct product of this early ministry. This is the parousia of the Lord; his appearing, his presence; it is his spirit come forth from behind the veil, the daystar rising in our hearts; this is what gets unveiled.

So, outwardly, it is the dawning of a new day, but in our hearts it is an unveiling; the apocalypse of his anointing; the ministry of the high priest in the new Jerusalem, and we are the gates, the pearls, the doorway into the city. Jesus builds up 12, they each build up 12, and they become captains of a thousand... it is a dispensation, a calling to build the city, the city doesn't just appear from heaven, we have to build it; it is the ministry of his appearing. The man child is already raptured with building the new jerusalem... we are caught up in this ministry.

The mainstream religious corporations teach the rapture as if it was an event for the flesh; as if our bodies will float away or something ridiculous like that. Flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God, it is our spirit that is caught up to the throne in heaven; and guess what? ... we are already raptured with our ministry to the body of Christ, we are already seated in heavenly places with Christ.

So, here in the 5th seal, we see 144,000 virgins from the 12 tribes of Israel being sealed with the spirit; actually, that is simply a Christian participation in the apocalypse ministry of our Lord. The Lord is come already, in spirit, the harvest is truly great, there's a lot of work to do, some few brothers and sisters are being chosen to build this man child through the dispensation of his appearing. Lift up your heads and be lifted up! This work is at hand, don't wait for the 7th trumpet, by then this work will be over, we are called to be raptured with the work of his coming right now. Can I get a ram's horn? Blow the warning in Zion, wake up the sleeping lions, the day of the Lord is at hand, a day of grief and sorrow, a day of cloudiness and half-light, a day of trouble and trial, but a day of great expectations, so let your spirit in you rise up! The Lord is here. Be ye ready, for he is come to judge the earth and to deliver his chosen.
 

Days

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feed back from my better half...

The military watches were posted to watch for the enemy while the main army slept. David wrote in psalms "mine eyes prevented the morning" in the morning watch; meaning he got up before the dawn, just as he might have done for a morning watch. The morning star is the planet Venus, and it will appear in the morning sky around 2 AM-ish, so you see in the 4th letter (to Thyatira) that he promises the faithful to give them the morning star; that was why I stretched the 4th letter to 1390, to be sure it included Wycliffe. The whole idea was to give the vision context; so the reader can see why it was always referred to as "the day of the Lord" ... the entire construction of the church is one big dispensation (pouring out of the spirit)... God planted this seed in Mary and this entire church Age is what it produced; it all came from the one seed; it is all one big tree of life; when Jesus was hanging on the cross, he was shown what the release of the spirit would produce; he was given a vision of the entire church it would assemble; so he knew he wasn't dying in vain.

Yes, Jesus made the deaf to hear, but what I was thinking of was the Sanhedrin, the chiefs of the priests, the council, the elders of his generation who were entrusted with keeping the flame, Solomon lit, burning on the altar (I know, the Lord lit the altar with fire from heaven but it was Solomon's prayer, eh? And it was long gone by the time Jesus came... but you get the idea) ... when Jesus said, "hear O' Israel... the Lord thy God is one Lord" he wasn't just quoting scripture, he was asking those chief priests to hear what he was preaching. But he never opened their ears, they never received his words, they rejected him and his words and they were the ones who arranged for his crucifixion. So, that's what I was thinking when I said, he never made the deaf to hear; because those were the deaf that needed to hear. There are none so deaf as those who refuse to hear...


more feed back from my better half...

I explained that this was the apology (in the making) God told me to write, and she asked, "what's an apology?" And I explained, it's like a dissertation, it's a theme paper of sorts written on a Christian theme... nothing is clicking... so she asks, "What's the difference between an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation?" And I answer, "Nothing, they are all inspiration."

We all partake of the same anointing, there's no difference between the fellowship between the Apostles and any other fellowship that took place in the body of Christ. There's no difference between the Christ anointing that rested on Jesus and the Christian anointing that rests on every member of Christ. If someone says the gifts of the holy spirit are measured to each member of the Body, while the fullness of the Holy Spirit rested on Christ... how can you measure God? Can five gallons of God perform more miracles than one quart? Is the holy spirit sevenfold what it was in Jesus day? Or is the holy spirit just doing seven times as much work? Does God get tired? Does God need to rest one day of every week?

Is this post I am making right now - I am dead tired and just want to go to sleep, but God is telling me to do this first - so it is another letter to my pen pals, right? - is this any different than any letter Paul wrote that Pamphilius ended up choosing to be part of the cannon? Do you think Paul wasn't tired or hungry or cold? Was Paul more filled with the holy spirit? Or was Paul's marching orders (commission) purer? ... from a higher command? Or is all fellowship the same... is all ministry in the body, the same spirit?

I know from experience what the Lord wants me to write, I know when something is inspired, I know when I am being told what to write versus giving my own opinion on a matter; but these things are what normally come upon any member of the body that is working in the ministry. My wife and myself have never had a job that paid us for working the ministry, but we have been active ministers the whole 25 years we've been together... the point being, it is perfectly normal to be writing an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation; this is what we do, we employ the gifts given us in the body, we live in the spirit, we are empowered by the spirit, we do the works of the spirit. Christian living hasn't changed any in the past 1985 years, we are still passing on the same breath that Jesus breathed on the Apostles after his resurrection, and we still labor under the same anointing that rested upon the Apostles at Pentecost.


Cherubs: Wheels, rims of eyes, and flaming swords


Cherubim are throughout the prophets, yet not really explained; the Bible acts like you know what Cherubs are all about… see, over there? Cherub. Be very afraid. Think: enforcement of God’s will; think government. Think: God is doing something, carrying out his will. When God is doing something, watch out, don’t get in front of where’s he is driving his army, don’t stand in between God and what he wants to do… “Get out of the way, Moses, I’m going to kill ‘em all, I’ll just grow another nation out of your seed” … now, that’s a very dangerous moment to speak up and oppose what God is doing. (hint: if you aren’t Moses, just stand clear).


Peter stood there, “No, no, no, don’t let them crucify you Lord” (think man, this is going to hurt something awful) … and Jesus mowed him over, “Move out of my path Satan, I’m coming through”. When you are facing the will of the Father, that’s almost never going to change, God thinks out all his actions in advance, so when it comes time to carry hidden desires out, that’s when the cherubim show up… time to stand clear.


I’m sure someone has gone looking for the cherub with the flaming sword and an entrance into Eden. Have you ever considered that the snake in the tree was just as much a cherub as the one with the flaming sword turning in every direction? This is the will of God. God had already created mankind and that species of man was “very good” … and not at all evil. Next, God creates a different species of man, and this man is both good and evil. He starts out good, then God inserts the nature of knowing both good and evil … what happened there? Was that bite from the snake the desire of God? Is the flaming sword and cherub, God’s way of saying he’s not repenting of this path for mankind? Did God repent later and flood the whole earth? Was the rainbow God’s way of saying he wouldn’t lose his temper again? And how did that work out? Isn’t the 2nd coming prophecy full to the brim with God’s anger at the nations and judgment upon the disobedient? And here we go with the cherubs again.


The Spirit of the cherubs is in their wheels. Whoa, these angels have wheels? No feet? Just wheels? If you have run with the footmen and they have tired you, what will you do in the day of horsemen? And if the days of global war and tribulation are too much for you; what are you going to do when the cherub show up? Cherub run on wheels. And they have a wheel within a wheel; I designed hoist gearing like that, that inner wheel is spinning real fast, and that outer wheel is moving nice and slow but it is not going to be stopped… when the cherub are moving, their wings are flapping, imagine four giant helicopter blades, imagine the noise, imagine the wind, imagine the heat, and that inner wheel is spinning and no doubt smoke is rising and the eyes are set on rings up high and are like laser beams of light piercing all creation headed off in every direction… God’s will is like that. So, when God says, he has thought about repenting of carrying out the plagues (in John’s apocalypse - everything was laid down first by the prophets of old) – and I have talked at length to Jesus about this – and God says he has decided he isn’t going to repent, he is going to carry it all out… look, this is no laughing matter. This vision comes right from the crystal sea throne in the clouds and there are 4 cherubs holding up God’s intentions… that’s God’s way of saying he is bound and determined to see this through. So, I asked him years ago, “1/3 of mankind dies? In one stinking plague? Isn’t that a tad rash?” … “ I mean, really! One out 3 humans on the earth dies??” And he said simply, “Day, they all are going to die, eventually, everyone who is born, dies.” I guess you might call that a heavenly perspective. After that, it’s just a matter of how you want them to go. When you get right down to it… what difference does it make? Mankind makes a big deal of death, as if it is something awful and it shouldn’t happen… but it happens anyway, sooner or later.
 

Days

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Jen

Jen said:

Well (and this is just me complaining) I feel like this is hell and I'm living out the tribulation.
I agree with you about the rapture.


Jen said:

I know what you mean here.
I can tell the difference between my inspired writing and my own - as I'm writing it.
Either way, everything I write reeks of frustration. I can't get away from the frustration, despair, and realization that even those with ears will not hear.


Jen said:

Keep writing, Days.
I will read whether anyone else does or not.




Days

It was the same anointing that was telling me what to write, totally focused on the material, nothing about me, if you look at my first apology - I never even signed it - but as I was finishing it, the spirit told me to get personal, spill some guts, give yourself away. I understood why he wanted that. John does the same thing at the end of his gospel. For this apology, it was totally different, it was as if the holy spirit was leaking the apology right from the git-go, and I didn't even realize it. I made the conscious decision to use this format; literally toss it up in posts, make it a work interacting with the body... the last one was somewhat, but then it was my wife and a brother editing the opening, I wrote that one in a word document and transferred it online... this one has a whole lot less control, this one is being written online and transferred to a word doc. I'm pretty sure I lose the copyright doing it this way, but I doubt that is going to much matter, no one is going to chase after me for making copies of my own writing (I hope not!). But I totally get your frustration, I have 3 decades of the same, God has a way of stopping all the flow on all our good ideas, so when he finally opens up the locks and the water comes rushing in, there's no bloody doubt that he is doing it. That was a big reason for doing it this way, I wanted everyone to share in the experience, not so much to have the experience as simply to see it happening as it is happening, to realize that the holy spirit works this way, because today, no one believes the holy spirit works any more, everyone thinks God did something miraculous 2000 years ago and that was the end of it; local churches try to repeat the mistakes of the first church... instead of building on top of it.

I had a crown put in last Saturday, I've been sick all week and what a headache - the old noggin felt like shattered glass - and I've been working night and day, which was weird for a summer week, we should be slow - so what does God do? He chooses moments when my brain is pure mush, not a single neuron firing in a single brain cell, and he tells me; start writing. He did this last time also, seize that moment when I have zero inspiration and no desire for the work whatsoever, first he has to get past me, keep my hand from ruining the painting, I'm a talented writer, I am prone to jumping in there; I understand that, believe me, no one wants Damian to stay out of it more than Damian, so when I only have 4 hours of sleep before the morning limo run, and feeling like death by a wood chipper – re-crushed 3 times - and the holy spirit says, go write a post before you fall asleep; I understand why he is doing that.

My fear in sharing it this way, making it so personal, is that people will misunderstand, read the letter from Paul and miss the holy spirit. I'll bet ya, if we had all the other letters Paul wrote in his lifetime, I'll bet we would immediately notice the difference when the inspiration was strong; Paul noticed it, and trust me, wow, do I notice it, no one knows better than me how much God is writing this, how strong the presence is, how strong the winds are that are blowing in my ship sails, there is a reason the gospels and epistles were all written when the Apostles were much older; it takes decades of discipline to allow yourself into the writing without taking over; tell the story but stay out of the telling of it, do the work but not be in control of it... I am just reaching this point in my Christian walk, I was saved 36 years ago and have preached all over this nation, I trained for ministry 32 years ago and I can tell you, ministry is non-stop 24/7, it tires you out, ministry is the hardest work I do, maybe not for money, but we work for the Lord, ministry is not for money anyway, not the real work, and we have reached the point where we don't remember 1/10th all the work, who cares? ... work never ends, we live and breathe to do the work, when Paul was in the cell he asked Timothy to bring his cloak (he was cold) and the parchments - but especially the parchments - because you realize that it takes a helluva lot of experience and work before you get to the point where the holy spirit can use you to write with, where you can be poured out, where you can be tapped for all that service you gave.

Jen, I told my wife I am like the elephants, I need to be prodded, I need to be poked with those pricks, who is going to do that for you? No one in the world, that's for sure. I was praying that you or Emily would give this thread some input, it was a HUGE encouragement for me, and also the holy spirit was telling me to write about this aspect, this is a type of rapture that goes unnoticed, but this is the type of rapture that gives us scripture, gives us written fellowship, I have no use for Christian books written by authors, sold in the marketplace, full of somebody's genius, passion, and let's face it; flesh. If somebody put it up for sale; it was their flesh. I cannot fathom anyone who knows the holy spirit well enough, to be used to write scripture, turning around and selling it for money. I guess the one prophet; Balaam was it? ... did that. I'm pretty sure that was the last time God put up with that, and Balaam had a donkey start talking to him, and hurt him too, so God let him know he wasn't pleased with it. It is the Lord's work, it isn't for our profit, it is for the body. Every day, my wife gets up and does the Lord's work, and a fresh work of art is produced, and she e-mails it out, as we live and breathe. Young Christians all want to toss a mountain into the sea, what for? They want the power, they want to do great things... the holy spirit wants us to minister to the saints, to forget about ourselves and take care of the members of the body... eventually, you get poured out, maybe someday, you really need to toss a mountain into the sea, but if it happens, it will just be because God is trying to make a believer out of some hard heart, not to show off how great we are. The work of the holy spirit is for the body, when I was young, the holy spirit thrust me into the preaching, you preach the word, not yourself, no one is going to be saved by you talking about yourself, now I am old, and my bones are brittle, there is a lot of pain, the idea of leaving this world sounds better every day, but before I go, God is telling me to do this, I'm not sure what else he has in mind, but it is an outpouring, he is tapping all those years in the ministry, and he does that with the saints, he is doing it with you also, don't be frustrated, it never happens the way we think it should happen.


Jen


Some random thoughts that came to mind:
- If someone sells their "inspired" writing, it (to me anyway) ruins it. Soils it. If I am ever so fortunate as to receive inspiration I would never want to be paid for it.

- My being inspired is tiny as far as I know... and afterwards I usually convince myself that I made up the idea that it may have been inspired. Even if I can see the difference, I know I'm too insignificant for that.

- Him choosing the moments when your brain is pure mush makes a lot of sense. I am sure that my mind fights its way into any possible inspired moment (without intending to, but doing it nonetheless).

Keep writing.
It's important.


Days

Our carnal mind reasons that it must be strong and fresh and full of passion to write for the Lord. Kind of like Gideon bringing 30,000 to battle. We can do the Lord's work out of our own strength; heck, we don't even need the Lord to show up for the battle, because we've got enough strength to win on our own. And our wallets need to be stuffed to keep up the good work; so, won't you send money to support our ministry? And we price our books reasonable so even the poor in Christ can afford to support our ministry, right?

It doesn't just taint the work of the holy spirit; it completely obliterates any presence of God whatsoever. Jesus flat out hates it, and won't go anywhere near it.
 

Days

Commentator
Epilogue

to recapture the vision of the unveiling; first, let's remember what the idea of "unveiling" (apocalypse) is aimed at:



  • old testament prophecy was sealed until the last days.
  • the removing of the seals was equal to lifting the veil over our hearts that kept us from understanding the words.
  • the apocalypse, then, is not so much the fulfillment of prophecy as it is the revealing of prophecy... it is an enlightenment.


Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,



to see the Day of the Lord, let's focus on the anointing itself, that became known as "the seed of Christ". Messiah refers to the person anointed, let's ignore the persons involved and concentrate on the anointing itself. So, this seed of anointing was planted in Mary and it grew... and it grew... and it grew... first, the anointing brings forth the man Jesus; then, it is released through death and resurrection and it brought forth the church; finally, within the church - in these last days of the dispensation - it is bringing forth another man child; which is going to be the government in the coming kingdom.

The Day of the Lord focuses on the bringing forth of the man child; which is to say, the bringing forth of the kingdom. The kingdom arrives as an anointing planted inside Mary, released to the church via death and resurrection, and then organized in the saints during the last days of the church Age. It is the organic growth of that anointing; the seed brings forth a tree of life which is established through death and resurrection and manifestation on earth of that anointing.

That anointing is performing all the events prophesied in scripture; there is a definite plan and process that is being followed. If you focus on the anointing itself, you see what God is doing, and what he intends to do in the immediate future, because we live in the days of the man child, the kingdom is being formed inside us, right now. That kingdom is the same anointing that God first gave to Saul and then took off of Saul and placed on David... and eventually replanted it in Mary. The seed of Christ is the kingdom anointing, and very shortly it will bring forth the kingdom on earth, but it starts inside us. And it goes through a process. It started in Mary as a re-planting of the anointing that rested upon David; so, God took his laws (his government) and planted them in our hearts. The kingdom grows up inside us and brings forth it's nature; the fruit of its maturation in us, is the ruling of the spirit; so we walk in the ways of the spirit as it transforms our hearts and minds; the new nature it produces in us, is the kingdom of God. A kingdom is just the domain of a king; and a domain is whatever area the king is ruling over; when our hearts are ruled by the holy spirit, we become part of the holy spirit's domain; we enter the kingdom of God.

The anointing that becomes the kingdom had to go through a process to produce the end result...

Luke 24:

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.



Revelation 12:

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.



The First Resurrection
Many are called but few are chosen... for the first resurrection. Let's jump forward to the assembly of the army of the Lord. The 3 ½ year testimony of the 2 witnesses has ended, the beast has killed them both and left them to rot in the streets of Jerusalem, the spirit of the Lord has re-entered their bodies and both have ascended to heaven in the sight of all the city. The 7th trumpet sounds in heaven and the Lion of the tribe of Judah is standing before the throne, receiving his commission for a 1000-year rule on earth. The Son of God then descends from heaven with a shout and hisses (a short whistle) for his army...

What is assembled is the portion of the church that is chosen to rule with Christ in the kingdom, the dead in Christ rise first, then the living followers of the 2 witnesses - who no doubt are about to be attacked next by the beast - are added to the mix. These are the saints who will rule with Christ on earth, and the last to be resurrected shall be first in the kingdom; IOW, the 144,000 following the 2 witnesses that are caught up in the first resurrection alive, are at the head of the army. It really doesn't matter whether they are bodily raptured; Paul said when he was standing before the throne, that he couldn't tell if he was in his body or not; but the saints on earth that went to bury his dead body after the stoning, knew his body was still here. Either way, whether in their bodies or only in spirit, the 144,000 are caught up to the throne, and they are still alive. What's really crazy is the 3 ½ years of the first rule of the reformed Roman Kingdom passes, and the entire civilization of man's self-rule is crushed by the saints, and the kingdom is given to the saints... whoa, think! The 144,000 are still alive! The violent take the kingdom by force.

So, the first resurrection is the assembly of the kingdom saints. Maybe only 1/10th of the church is chosen to reign on earth with Christ for the 1000-year rule. The rest of the church is sitting on the sidelines, not participating, not living on earth with the Lord, they have to wait for the 1000-year kingdom to end. My understanding is that when Christ assembles his church, he judges and chooses right then (the judgment seat of Christ) separates out the saints for the kingdom, then adds the living 144,000... then sets the entire living church in a secret place on earth to ride out the next 3 ½ years of plagues tossed at the beast. Where are the 144,000 during those 3 ½ years of plagues tossed at the beast? In heaven or on earth? I'm thinking they are still alive, so they are hidden with the rest of the seed of Christ (on earth). But their spirit remains resurrected, they remain raptured, they never depart heaven, they stay with the Lord, for them death is going to be a physical transformation to their spiritual body, the time for burying the dead will be over for those who die in the Lord, that should apply to all who are chosen in the 1000 year kingdom; death will be a transformation into a spiritual body; I don't see any need for a corpse ... there wasn't any corpse left from Jesus' resurrection.
 

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Jen

Kind of confusing. So, the 144,000 are still here somewhere and they know who they are and what they must do? And the thousand-year reign is just with them, not everyone?




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There are no 144,000 virgins popping up in Israel... there is a dispensation; an outpouring of the spirit. There is a river of waters of life flowing from the throne. There is a household economy/administration supplying the holy spirit to the church. There are these two olive branches pouring oil into the lampstand. There is a ministry of the holy spirit unveiling our eyes to understand the scriptures. That ministry is pouring the holy spirit into us, so the unveiling happens as we grow in the Lord. As we are poured into, we pour out into others, so we are built up and we build others up and the holy spirit multiplies. Eventually, what is produced is the 144,000 - which might be just a number - but what is produced is this new church within a church; the man child. That's why I said, the kingdom doesn't just appear - sure, in the vision it just appears - but in real life we have to build it; we abide in the vine and grow into the man child, it is a dispensation, a pouring out of the spirit.

The 1000-year reign of the kingdom - technically, the return of the kingdom of David - which rules the whole earth, is led by saints returning with the Lord. That is not the entire church. Only the saints who are full grown in the spirit, who have the nature of Christ, who produce fruit, are fit for the 1000-year kingdom, the rest are put on the sidelines (outer darkness) and don't live again until the 1000 years are up. Again, that 1000 years may be just a number, then again, the first resurrection might take place exactly 2000 years to the hour and day when Jesus resurrected... even if that happens, who would know the day and hour? No one.



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Want to talk about the war in heaven. First of all; John writes something that tells you there was a struggle; there was time involved... Jesus and the other prophets told us about how it ends; Satan is cast down to the earth, but that is the ending of the war, have you stopped to consider the war, itself? If "there was war in heaven" then when did that take place? It took place just prior to Satan being cast to the earth, and when did that happen? It happens at the end of the 42-month testimony of the 2 witnesses. So, let's look back at my timeline; right now, we are in the 5th seal, this takes us up to the end, then the 6th seal is just the sign of the son of man in heaven (2027-2028) or possibly just 2028... then the end comes - the 7th seal - which comprises of 7 trumpets for the first 42 months, then 7 vials of plagues for the last 42 months. Satan is cast down to earth in 2032 for the 42-month testimony of the anti-Christ. So, if there is war in heaven ending with the advent of the anti-Christ, when does it begin? It begins with this struggle that we are witnessing that will result in the anti-Christ taking the throne. It begins with the 4th seal; the great tribulation. It begins with the vision in Zachariah chapter one...

7 Upon the four and twentieth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Sebat, in the second year of Darius, came the word of the LORD unto Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet, saying, 8 I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white. 9 Then said I, O my lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. 10 And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. 11 And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.

So the horses of the 2nd and 3rd seal have already walked the earth and now they are ready to perform the 4th seal. And it is kicked off by the towers falling in NYC. So, while we went through the 4th seal, the time of great tribulation, there was war in heaven. Now, that war in heaven is still going on, it continues right up until the middle of the 7th seal when satan is cast out of heaven. (So, when the Lord said he saw satan cast out of heaven... that meant he saw it in a vision)

So what does it mean, "war in heaven"? It means there is a spiritual struggle going on.
Now, let's look back at Genesis, and think about the whole story of mankind. God created man from the ground and put the spirit of life in him. And this man was "very good". This first man went forth and multiplied and built civilization all over the planet. There was no evil. There was a covering cherub over the throne in heaven and that cherub was not in rebellion against God, there was no spiritual force of evil at work amongst mankind. For all we know, mankind existed for millions of years and the entire earth lived in perfect harmony and peace and there was no crime, no hatred, no wars, no poverty, life was very good. And I guess the average life span was 1000 years.

Then God created the man Adam and a different spirit is placed inside the man. A spirit of good and evil. No more very good, and now we have evil present. Fast forward to about 10,000 years ago and the earth is struck by a small moon and turns over and new latitudes are set up and man's lifespan reduces to 600 years, then 500 years, then 400 years, until Abraham comes along and lives only 180 years... by the time of Moses it is 120 years... and now it is more like 70-80 years.


Psalm 90

A prayer of Moses the man of God.

1 Lord, you have been our dwelling place throughout all generations.

2 Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

3 You turn people back to dust, saying, “Return to dust, you mortals.”

4 A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.

5 Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death — they are like the new grass of the morning:

6 In the morning it springs up new, but by evening it is dry and withered.

7 We are consumed by your anger and terrified by your indignation.

8 You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence.

9 All our days pass away under your wrath; we finish our years with a moan.

10 Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
 

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We were born into this world where the spirit of man is good and evil, and the god of this world conducts civilization through constant war, strife, and sorrow. We live in a moment when the Lord Jesus and his angels are struggling with satan and his angels to cleanse heaven of their spirit. John's vision tells us that after satan is cast down to earth he has a short time (42 months) then the devil is taken and locked up in a bottomless pit.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


So what will life on earth be like, once that satan is locked up in the bottomless pit? The lives of the beasts were pro-longed for a season, meaning that the political earth inherited by the saints remains the same; the nations remain intact, and we rule by a rod of iron, which simply refers to the Roman Empire, hence, we take over the earth as it is, in the condition it is in, after satan rules the reformed Roman Empire out of Jerusalem for 42 months. Prophecy in Jeremiah says there is a struggle of sorts when the Lord Jesus rides in with the saints, the anti-Christ puts up a war against the saints, all his armies are cast against the saints, in the valley of megiddo (armageddon) but the saints dissolve his armies and the beast is taken and cast alive into the lake of fire. According to the above passage in Daniel chapter 12, the war in armageddon lasts 45 days, or, maybe it is 45 days from the beginning of that war until the first day of the reign of the saints. So, there is a spiritual struggle, followed by peace. Real peace, peace like we have not known since the former creation, when mankind was very good and there was no evil. That's the peace of the coming kingdom.

I never wandered off the path of the holy spirit, I just meandered all over man's institutions and their ethical norms. I don't care what they think, they are not the Lord. I've been tossed out of 5 or 6 churches, because I refused to put their doctrines above the scriptures. I was tossed out of the very first church I ever walked into because I believed the scriptures in place of what that whacked out California liberal preacher was teaching. (Not liberal politics, but liberal theology) I was never one to just go along with the system. The wife and I were cast out of the Living Stream ministry, where I trained for ministry, because we fell in love and they had other plans for who we should marry (Taiwan church using marriage to bring their people over).

My experience walking into churches all over America could be summed up in one word: apostasy: the church has fallen away from the faith. Corporate churches exist for one purpose; to make money. Now go learn how many of America's churches are incorporated into the state... all of them. They take the Lord's body and place them into the body of the state (incorporate means "place into the body" corporal = body) in order to turn the preaching of the word into an enterprise. Then they hire preachers (hire preachers = hirelings) to run the enterprise, investing tithes (tithes are old testament) into new land and buildings, which the corporation owns. So the church has fallen away from the faith, and gone a whoring after enterprises, so the hirelings can live rich off of their teachings which, you guessed it, always center on money... specifically offerings.

The reason the sheep are all lost is because the shepherds are all whores, lusting after money, preaching for filthy lucre. Woe unto the shepherds.

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD
~ Jeremiah 23:1


Ask me, they are all idiots. They know that the one thing Jesus hates is preaching for money, and yet they do it anyway. People think hell is going to be filled with rock-n-roll artists... I think hell is going to be filled with clergy, and anyone who lived after the reformation; anyone who grew up with ready access to the scriptures, and still went out and preached for money, all our wonderful pastors, all those good shepherds who needed your donation every week... yeah, that's going to be a bright spot in hell. Every steward of his grace must give account to the Lord, what will they say? "Lord, I knew you were an austere man, so I drop kicked your warnings and whored out your testimony for filthy lucre"... yeah, that's going to go over just great at their judgment seat. I'm sure the Lord Jesus will say, "no problem, I was a big liar anyway, glad you were cunning enough to torture my chosen for a few more dollars". Really Jack, I am at such a loss of wits for my brethren, what were they thinking?


Want to talk about the anointing. We have fallen so far from the faith, that we think of Jesus as the Christ, and the rest of us as dumb sheep. And although, on a whole, that tends to be the case, still I want to argue with the doctrine, if you can call it that. The crazy split in the historical theology over whether Jesus was a man or God... seems surreal. Jesus himself told us he was just a man who could do nothing in and of himself, that all the works come from the Father (in heaven). So, it would seem to be a no-brainer. But the terrible truth about this planet is we have a lot of gods... everyone had their gods... that's what the common (catholic) faith was all about, it was the carry-over of the ancient way of worshipping the gods. The common faith demanded that we place Jesus in a temple of stone and worship him as a god. So, he cannot be just a man, anointed by god, he must be the embodiment of God himself. So, he was God Almighty, come in the flesh. The goofy part is... he was. We all are. When the anointing is placed inside a human, God is come in the flesh. Sure, we are given a measure of the holy spirit... but think, that's a measure of God Almighty; how much God do you need for it to be Almighty? Like I said in the apology; how can you measure out God? Aren't we really measuring his works? God is resting upon the church, upon the body, the rest is just a measure of what he is doing. You can't weigh the holy spirit in the balances, God cannot be contained in a box, God is immeasurable, he is in all things, if Jesus had shut up his disciples while riding into Jerusalem, the rocks would have shouted out... you can't contain God.

Jesus was a man of his times. He was finite. God did amazing things with him and God also was defined through him, we gaze at the nature of this man, we marvel at his grace, we learned that we humans, are much more than we ever realized, or dared believe. And yet, Jesus was still a product of his times, he only knew what he knew as a man, living in those times, having experienced what he experienced. He was also a prophet, saw visions, and was shaped by the indwelling anointing... he was... the first Christ, the firstborn among many brethren, and we all are every whit the same as he was, we are prophets and we have the seed of Christ growing inside us. In this final end of days, the end of the Age, as we build the top stone of the church, we are standing upon the shoulders of all those who carried the cross, and we are the product of these times. We are, as he was, finite men, but anointed by God Almighty, and in these last days, men do wonder at the things we are doing, just as they did when Jesus did them.
 

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I AM A SPIRIT

There was a long history of personalities, spirits that were manifest as humans, but retaining godlike powers. Modern man has this faint memory of the "gods" from myths and legends and actually, also, a written record. Lord Enki ruled the Middle East and Africa for tens of thousands of years, both in myth and as recorded in the chronicles of kings, ancient Babylon. The myth was recorded in Genesis; Enki was the snake in the garden. Half snake, half man, these type creatures existed in the Far East also, and a snake never dies from old age, you have to kill it.

This present generation was raised in ignorance, so I get called a [Unwelcome language removed] idiot, just for relaying the facts, why do you people do that? Well, here's why. You do it because of the common faith, which is based upon the personification of the gods. IOW, the gods became human, half spirit, half human, and we knew them as humans, we gave them personalities; or just maybe, hell, they had personalities. So, we have the human reaction. We personify the gods. That's what it is, that's where it came from, and everyone is still doing it today, except, today, no one knows that's what they are doing, they just do it. So, I write down what I learned from my studies, what is recorded in stone (chronicles of kings) and what is recorded from word of mouth (myths) and you read my words and call me an idiot... as if, I am to blame for the written record not matching your understanding and education. You personify the record and then blame it on the messenger; ask me, that is just stupid, but hell, everyone does it.

Now, there was a higher understanding of the spirit world and it began in Persia and it was called Zoroastrianism. They perceived God as a fire. Not as a human, not having a human personality, not getting angry and casting thunderbolts at mankind, or sending angels with swords and killing humans with storms or disease or earthquakes or floods. I'm sure if human civilization had been aware of the small moon that broke up over the north pole and caused the great flood recorded as Noah's flood, I'm sure the small moon would have been personified, or at least a story would have explained that God was sorry he made mankind because mankind was sinful (never mind it was God that put the sinful nature into man) so he sent the small moon to strike the north pole and melt all that ice and confuse scientists for a thousand generations... but I digress... the Persians un-deified the gods and saw them simply as spirits.

3 wise men traveled to Judah for the birth of the Christ. Why was that so important? Have you ever stopped to think what an impact that made on Joseph and Mary? In those days, you didn't come visit for cocktails and dinner and then go home... these men came from the other side of the empire, they stayed for days, even weeks, to be sure. So, they were remembered as "wise men" ... get it? They taught that young couple things they never knew they never knew.

Fast forward to Jesus ministry. "God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". Where did he get that from? Persia.

"I am that I am" is not a name... let me paraphrase the Almighty at the burning bush; ready? what he said to Moses was this, "take off your sandals, learn some respect" okay, who was speaking? the fire was speaking. Finally, Moses asks the fire for his name. ARRRRRRRRRGH! "I don't have a name, Moses, I'm not a man like you, I am a spirit, haven't you noticed?"

... speak to the rock, Moses, don't strike it with a rod, the rock doesn't have feelings, it isn't going to behave better if you spank it. watch your temper.

So, was John the Baptist Elijah or wasn't he? Jesus said he was. John said he wasn't. What's going on there? I'll tell you what's going on there, the people need to personify the gods, so they are looking for the man Elijah to return, not his spirit... and it never dawned on those people that it is the same spirit that was resting on Elijah and then Elisha, that is resting on John and then resting on Jesus, and that it is the anointing spirit that is God. The messiah is just a man he rests on, God is the anointing itself; the spirit resting on the man. It is the spirit that returns. Not the man.

So, Jesus says it again in the apocalypse, when he returns, it won't be his person, it will be his spirit. Will you recognize his spirit? How? By faith? Your faith? The faith that fell away from following Christ? You know, there's an apostasy going on, the apostasy comes first, then Jesus returns, that's what Paul told us. So how will you recognize Jesus, if you do bump into him? And then there's the common faith that is still looking for the same person that lived 2000 years ago. Never mind that Jesus told us he would have a new name. That should have been understood from the prophets, that should have been understood by the anointing, he shouldn't have had to spell it out for you... and yet, how many of you are still not going to recognize the spirit? ... if you do bump into one of the two witnesses, how many of you will call the messiah an idiot?

Glory to God

Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. What is that? That's called justified by faith. And there's also that verse in the lesser prophets, the righteous shall live by their faith. What are they talking about? Abraham was no scholar, he was no great leader, he didn't build cities, he didn't teach us science, he didn't leave us any writings, not a word... what was so great about Abraham? He didn't do great things. All he did was walk away from Babylon and sojourn into a strange land. We are not so much as told what Abraham did in UR. He kept sheep and goats in Palestine. Because so many feel the need to put their heroes on a pedestal (idol worship - Abraham had idols in tow also, the whole world worships idols) they try to make a great man out of Abraham. The scriptures don't do that, they just say he was homeless, moved around in tents. But what Abraham did do, that was different from all the idol worshippers, was listen directly to the spirit of God, he had a personal relationship. If you would have told Abraham that he was a prophet, or as it were, a seer, they were called seers in those days, Abraham would have agreed, because he heard the voice of the Lord... and he lived by his faith, he walked away from Babylon and walked off, not knowing where he was going, because the spirit didn't tell him where to go, it just said "leave the home of your father". And off he walked.

Yeah, you know, leave the ways of your father also, leave behind all that idol worship, never return to Babylon. Leave all that personification of the gods. Forget worshipping God that way, learn to receive and return the spirit, reach out, touch faith. So, when Abraham came to Salem, there was Melchisadek; who was a historical figure, he was a priest king of this crazy new faith, that Abraham had unwittingly joined, and Melchisadek explained to Abraham who this voice in his ear was... the most high God. That was an explanation that an idol worshipper from Babylon could understand, because Babylon was filled with gods, so here you go, Abraham, this spirit talking to you is the most high God. Abraham doesn't ask "what's his name?"

Learn to say this Y-AH. the y sound is heavy like a J. It floats some hot air. it could just as easily be pronounced HA. What is that? I dunno, but the ancients made that sound. It meant the spirit... the spirit of God. When a man made the journey from carnal flesh to the spirit realm (became a Buddha) God would add the sound of the spirit to his name, that's how we got ... JAH-shua ... Abr-AH-am.

How are we doing? Are we sitting there, calling me an idiot? That's okay, that's normal, that's how idol worshippers think. Religionists attack the spirit filled; always have, always will, that's why God told Abraham to get out of Babylon, had he stayed in Babylon, they would have killed him. Instead he stumbles into Palestine and runs into the high priest Melchisadek ... I'm just guessing that it was Melchisadek that changed his name. We get a new name as Christians, once we have been sufficiently transformed, we get the sound of the spirit added to our name. Do you catch my drift? Of course not, cuz you are still carnal, personifying the gods, worshipping idols, you are sitting there calling me an idiot again, who gets HA added to their name? No one does that. Maybe this guy belongs to a cult.

Bahaii = Hosanna = Glory to God


new name = new person, transformed, matured in the spirit, having the nature of the spirit.

Faith is a fire. Consuming our old nature, transforming us day by day, filling us with glory. The stone on the river bed is slowly replaced with precious minerals and transformed into a precious stone. It is a process. It is a journey. We follow the spirit inside us, instead of the religious mentality in the institutions of idol worship. The real Christians understand that the kingdom of God is inside us, talking to us, leading us out of Babylon, transforming us into the glory of God.
 

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Faith is what you believe in your heart, while religion is what you do daily with your hands and feet. The old way of the common faith was religion. Even the way under the Law of Moses was religion. You payed homage, you gave honor, you performed the priestly service, you followed whatever methods in whichever cultures, and you worshipped the gods ... or the most high God ... with your actions. When the prophet said to bind the word of God to your clothing so you never forget it; the people walked around with little scrolls attached to their clothing. The bottom line: mankind lived out his whole life in the same sinful flesh he was born into, and if he feared God, he tried to live lawfully so that he might not be judged harshly when he died... but while he was alive, there was no transformation of his being from carnal into spiritual.

That's what the living breath of the holy spirit does; that's what the good news of the resurrection accomplished; God imparted his holy spirit - through faith in the Christ Jesus - into the hearts of men. We no longer physically attach the scriptures to our clothing, we read the scriptures and the word abides in us, grows in us, there's a living word inside us... it isn't rote memory of the scriptures, memorized by our carnal minds... the old religion has been displaced by the living word - the anointing - and that Christ in us, is transforming us into a whole new creature; our old ways are replaced with a new nature.

Back in Babylon, they are still worshiping the gods through religion, and they are not being transformed by it one whit. they may study the scriptures, they may study church history, they may know and understand so many different rituals, but they have not learned the way described in the Book of Acts. They think that what they are doing is the same as what the Apostles were doing, because they outwardly perform the same works. But the works they perform are the product of their carnal hands and feet, the ways they follow are the dogmas of their churches, and the bottom line is - even if they believe in Jesus - they are not following the holy spirit, they are following religion.

And the thing is, religion cannot transform your being. Religion can save you, anything that takes your daily living from sinful acts into sincere acts of kindness can save you. Outwardly, your living has been saved. But only the holy spirit can transform you inwardly. And that doesn't happen unless we discipline ourselves to follow the
Christ in us; and that's a different discipline from following the outward doctrines of religion. I'm talking to the saved. Going to church on Sunday morning and Bible study on Wednesday evenings is going to save you, but only following the Christ in you is going to transform you.

When Jesus asked... "when the son of man returns, will he find faith on the earth?" ... this is the faith he was talking about; will he find people following the anointing inside them? Will people be getting transformed daily into the same nature that flowed out as grace from Jesus? This is the faith that Jesus brought, and no one - not even his apostles - understood it. but when he breathed the holy spirit into his believers, then the holy spirit taught it to us. That's why St John wrote that you need no man to teach you because the anointing inside you will teach you, all we need to do is abide in the vine, pay attention to the anointing inside us.


The Sign of the Son of Man in heaven


Here's the thing... the man came and talked, left no writing, then 30 years later, his disciples tried to remember what he said and wrote the gospels... so what difference does it make exactly how the quote goes? It wasn't a perfect quote to begin with, all that matters is the inspiration... both back then when it was written and right now when we read it. IOW, the holy spirit is still the one running the show.

So, if you have followed my journal in BFD blog and my two apologies here in religion... you know that I am under the delusion that we are in the 5th seal right now. So, what comes next? Yeah, the 6th seal... so what are we looking for?

Signs in heaven are either the sun, the moon, or the stars. In this case, it is all 3. The sun becomes obscured, so it shines half-strength, actually not even that strong, it is darkened; think what it looks like covered with sack cloth... first, think of a burlap sack, now toss that material over the sun; it is loose woven so light comes through, but most the light is blocked. The moon turns blood red, like it does in a lunar eclipse. Except this isn't an eclipse, this is all night long every night... and we are not told how long the sign lasts. But we are told it is a global event, so it has to be 24 hours, at least. If the great men of the world decide to start hiding in the rocks and caves, it must be happening for long enough to get that reaction. And this is important, the sign is so obviously exactly what the apocalypse describes, that the leaders of the earth know what it is, and they know their days are numbered. I don't think that happens in 24 hours, my gut tells me this sign continues for weeks on end, maybe even months.

The church is constantly 2nd guessing the resurrection, even in Paul's day there were some teaching that the resurrection was already passed... not yet, it isn't! First the sign of Jesus return happens, then the 42-month ministry of the 2nd coming (7 trumpets announce his presence), then the son of perdition is revealed for 42 months, then the Lord and the saints return to claim the kingdom.


The day of the Lord is a progression, things keep happening, one after another, so it moves forward. As it moves forward, the last event doesn't necessarily stop happening, it is just that the next event is happening. So, all that war in the red horse didn't stop for the black horse, and all that economics in the black horse didn't stop for the great tribulation, and the great tribulation is still ongoing, but the Lord holds back the final end and inserts the building of the man child. So, we are in the 5th seal, but the 4th seal is still happening, and so is the 3rd.
 

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Remember, Jesus referred to this as the last generation, the end of the Age, the days of vengeance when all things written in the prophets would be fulfilled... so yeah, it should feel that way, it is the most troublesome time in all history, it grabs your gut, it makes you lift your head and look for his return.

How did Isaiah put it? A day of trouble, a day of sorrow. A day of darkness and fear, men's hearts failing them for fear of the things to come.

Not everyone has that clear an understanding of the unveiling, but most everyone senses the day is upon us, the time is near. Remember in the 60's they would march around with signs that read, "the end is near"? Then Isaiah says, the end lingers, but wait for it, for it shall surely come. And what do the saints say in the 5th seal? "How long, O' Lord, before we do this already??" If they are running out of patience in heaven, you know the time is close. But we still got this one item left to get done, we still have to build the manchild.


Okay, I guess this is why God wakes me at 5AM on a Saturday. Wow, let's talk about the manchild... where to begin?

Let's start by thinking about what, exactly, are we dealing with, when we are dealing with a vision. Science has not defined a vision for us, probably because the scientists never get one. But, damn, I get visions like the rest of you drink water, so does my wife. A vision is very close to a dream. What the heck is that? dreaming? Science can't define it beyond rapid eye movement, and I'm sure as hell not listening to Sigmond Freude try and translate my dreams for me... not when I've got the holy spirit on board, I ask the holy spirit what it all means. And this is key - what does the vision me to me? Peter was shown a vision of a cloth with all kinds of seafood (unlawful to eat; seafood is unclean) and told to eat the critters, something Peter was not about to do, and Ezekiel was told worse, but the point is, what did the vision mean to Peter? It meant to go beyond the Law and preach Jesus to the Italian band, a bunch of gentiles, something Peter would never have done without the vision. Even after the baptism of the holy spirit upon the gentiles, Peter was inclined to not eat with them, because it broke the Law. So, the visions and dreams are there to guide us and help us understand what God is doing, right now, in our lives.

So, we get this vision - over and over - of a woman giving birth to a child. The woman is the church. So, the new born baby boy is also the church; kind of a church within a church. Don't think of the crap on earth, think of the one sole church in heaven; it is huge, hundreds of millions of souls, and it gives birth to this small group of Christians, that is to become the government in the coming kingdom. "A small child shall lead them". "The last shall be first".

Remember how Jesus concentrated on his apostles? This is the same thing, these are the apostles at the end of the age, except they are throughout the earth. Once again, the Lord's anointing is present "the most high himself shall lead them" and once again the Lord concentrates on his apostles. So the Lord builds up 12, and they build up 12 each, and they each build up a 1000... those are just numbers, but get the concept, see what the Lord is doing, it is a dispensation, the two olive branches (2 witnesses, 2 messiahs, 2 anointed ones, 2 christs) are pouring the olive oil (holy spirit) into the lamp stand (the church). So, there is a direct transmission from heaven, from the spirit of God. Sound like a crazy way for a woman to give birth? But it is practical, and it produces a church within a church, it builds the manchild. And it is a repeat of the first coming. Ask me, the 5th seal is the 2nd coming, this is the ministry time, this is when the church within the church is formed.

Now, you know why it feels like such a weight. This is the topstone to the church age, back in Jesus time, the stone that the builders rejected became the corner stone... now we are adding the topstone. Look at the back of the dollar bill, see that all-seeing eye in the topstone? That's what the illuminatti think they are building. I'll tell you a secret, Jen, the real topstone is just beginning, and we are in on it. But it gets built in the spirit, not on earth. I don't let it become a weight, because it is the Lord's work, not mine. I just follow the holy spirit daily and let the Lord do his work.
 

Days

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I will have comments. Let me chew on them for a bit first though.
Thanks, @Days.
I finished compiling the apology from the thread it was written in (The Day of the Lord Link). The Word Doc is now 28 pages long... I copied/pasted from the Word Doc to this thread. I'll be e-mailing out the Word Doc as soon as I can get to it; I've got a couple airports to run right now. I am headed to pick up one of my regulars right now, I brought her to the airport yesterday morning and promised to give her a copy of the 2 apologies, so I woke up 5 AM again (what is it with this 5 AM stuff?) this morning and when I looked back at the thread; the holy spirit had told me before to incorporate the rest of it into the apology, so I went ahead and did that.

kind of interesting reading this apology from all these posts; you can see how the holy spirit was guiding the posting from start to end; this line of posting began with the "Sunday Morning Coffee" thread, 3 years and 10 months ago.
 
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Jen

Trump 2020
We were born into this world where the spirit of man is good and evil, and the god of this world conducts civilization through constant war, strife, and sorrow. We live in a moment when the Lord Jesus and his angels are struggling with satan and his angels to cleanse heaven of their spirit. John's vision tells us that after satan is cast down to earth he has a short time (42 months) then the devil is taken and locked up in a bottomless pit.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


So what will life on earth be like, once that satan is locked up in the bottomless pit? The lives of the beasts were pro-longed for a season, meaning that the political earth inherited by the saints remains the same; the nations remain intact, and we rule by a rod of iron, which simply refers to the Roman Empire, hence, we take over the earth as it is, in the condition it is in, after satan rules the reformed Roman Empire out of Jerusalem for 42 months. Prophecy in Jeremiah says there is a struggle of sorts when the Lord Jesus rides in with the saints, the anti-Christ puts up a war against the saints, all his armies are cast against the saints, in the valley of megiddo (armageddon) but the saints dissolve his armies and the beast is taken and cast alive into the lake of fire. According to the above passage in Daniel chapter 12, the war in armageddon lasts 45 days, or, maybe it is 45 days from the beginning of that war until the first day of the reign of the saints. So, there is a spiritual struggle, followed by peace. Real peace, peace like we have not known since the former creation, when mankind was very good and there was no evil. That's the peace of the coming kingdom.

I never wandered off the path of the holy spirit, I just meandered all over man's institutions and their ethical norms. I don't care what they think, they are not the Lord. I've been tossed out of 5 or 6 churches, because I refused to put their doctrines above the scriptures. I was tossed out of the very first church I ever walked into because I believed the scriptures in place of what that whacked out California liberal preacher was teaching. (Not liberal politics, but liberal theology) I was never one to just go along with the system. The wife and I were cast out of the Living Stream ministry, where I trained for ministry, because we fell in love and they had other plans for who we should marry (Taiwan church using marriage to bring their people over).

My experience walking into churches all over America could be summed up in one word: apostasy: the church has fallen away from the faith. Corporate churches exist for one purpose; to make money. Now go learn how many of America's churches are incorporated into the state... all of them. They take the Lord's body and place them into the body of the state (incorporate means "place into the body" corporal = body) in order to turn the preaching of the word into an enterprise. Then they hire preachers (hire preachers = hirelings) to run the enterprise, investing tithes (tithes are old testament) into new land and buildings, which the corporation owns. So the church has fallen away from the faith, and gone a whoring after enterprises, so the hirelings can live rich off of their teachings which, you guessed it, always center on money... specifically offerings.

The reason the sheep are all lost is because the shepherds are all whores, lusting after money, preaching for filthy lucre. Woe unto the shepherds.

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD
~ Jeremiah 23:1


Ask me, they are all idiots. They know that the one thing Jesus hates is preaching for money, and yet they do it anyway. People think hell is going to be filled with rock-n-roll artists... I think hell is going to be filled with clergy, and anyone who lived after the reformation; anyone who grew up with ready access to the scriptures, and still went out and preached for money, all our wonderful pastors, all those good shepherds who needed your donation every week... yeah, that's going to be a bright spot in hell. Every steward of his grace must give account to the Lord, what will they say? "Lord, I knew you were an austere man, so I drop kicked your warnings and whored out your testimony for filthy lucre"... yeah, that's going to go over just great at their judgment seat. I'm sure the Lord Jesus will say, "no problem, I was a big liar anyway, glad you were cunning enough to torture my chosen for a few more dollars". Really Jack, I am at such a loss of wits for my brethren, what were they thinking?


Want to talk about the anointing. We have fallen so far from the faith, that we think of Jesus as the Christ, and the rest of us as dumb sheep. And although, on a whole, that tends to be the case, still I want to argue with the doctrine, if you can call it that. The crazy split in the historical theology over whether Jesus was a man or God... seems surreal. Jesus himself told us he was just a man who could do nothing in and of himself, that all the works come from the Father (in heaven). So, it would seem to be a no-brainer. But the terrible truth about this planet is we have a lot of gods... everyone had their gods... that's what the common (catholic) faith was all about, it was the carry-over of the ancient way of worshipping the gods. The common faith demanded that we place Jesus in a temple of stone and worship him as a god. So, he cannot be just a man, anointed by god, he must be the embodiment of God himself. So, he was God Almighty, come in the flesh. The goofy part is... he was. We all are. When the anointing is placed inside a human, God is come in the flesh. Sure, we are given a measure of the holy spirit... but think, that's a measure of God Almighty; how much God do you need for it to be Almighty? Like I said in the apology; how can you measure out God? Aren't we really measuring his works? God is resting upon the church, upon the body, the rest is just a measure of what he is doing. You can't weigh the holy spirit in the balances, God cannot be contained in a box, God is immeasurable, he is in all things, if Jesus had shut up his disciples while riding into Jerusalem, the rocks would have shouted out... you can't contain God.

Jesus was a man of his times. He was finite. God did amazing things with him and God also was defined through him, we gaze at the nature of this man, we marvel at his grace, we learned that we humans, are much more than we ever realized, or dared believe. And yet, Jesus was still a product of his times, he only knew what he knew as a man, living in those times, having experienced what he experienced. He was also a prophet, saw visions, and was shaped by the indwelling anointing... he was... the first Christ, the firstborn among many brethren, and we all are every whit the same as he was, we are prophets and we have the seed of Christ growing inside us. In this final end of days, the end of the Age, as we build the top stone of the church, we are standing upon the shoulders of all those who carried the cross, and we are the product of these times. We are, as he was, finite men, but anointed by God Almighty, and in these last days, men do wonder at the things we are doing, just as they did when Jesus did them.
In this segment, you talked about being thrown out of many churches because you preached Christ rather than man's religious rules, denominations, and dogma. This video just popped up in another forum and I saw it right after I read this. It seems to fit here.

 

Days

Commentator
In this segment, you talked about being thrown out of many churches because you preached Christ rather than man's religious rules, denominations, and dogma. This video just popped up in another forum and I saw it right after I read this. It seems to fit here.

another example of whipping the sheep?
 

Days

Commentator
I don't think so.
Let me ask you... how are my friends preying upon me when they pray with me? What is he talking about? Why do I have to cut off my friends to gain faith? What do my friends have to do with my faith?
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Let me ask you... how are my friends preying upon me when they pray with me? What is he talking about? Why do I have to cut off my friends to gain faith? What do my friends have to do with my faith?
To me it was saying that sometimes our friends lead us astray. And that while we can pray with friends........ we can still pray when we are alone. To me it seemed to encourage keeping the Holy Spirit as part of our lives always. But then I saw John Olsteen (Joel's dad?) and that made me wonder if I was taking the right thing from it.

That's what I took from it........... you seem to have taken the sheep beating thing. You are probably closer to being on track than I am.
 

Days

Commentator
To me it was saying that sometimes our friends lead us astray. And that while we can pray with friends........ we can still pray when we are alone. To me it seemed to encourage keeping the Holy Spirit as part of our lives always. But then I saw John Olsteen (Joel's dad?) and that made me wonder if I was taking the right thing from it.

That's what I took from it........... you seem to have taken the sheep beating thing. You are probably closer to being on track than I am.
Did you know that there is a cadence recognized as the holy spirit in every church in the nation? Preach in that cadence, and that's the holy spirit. Voice inflection is not the presence of God. All I get from that is ... the guy is screaming at me.

The guy is obviously being paid a ridiculous salary to come up with a powerful sermon every week and when he sits down to write it... zero inspiration. The holy spirit hates these hirelings, God is not going to feed them inspiration so they can prey upon the sheep. So the hireling/preacher/pastor has to do the cadence thing, they have no inspiration from God, so they have to make a big show, entertain you with the show. The more they can entertain their audience, the more money they can pull out of pockets.

Is the guy building up your faith? Or attacking it? Listen to his sermon, it is totally a religious questioning of your faith; "friends with the world makes you an enemy of God... even friends with believers can hold you back, even your prayer circle can be preying upon you"... what the heck is he talking about? He isn't dispensing the holy spirit, he isn't building up the church, the church isn't built up by sitting in pews and giving money to the hirelings. The real ministry of the real church of Christ is built up by exercising the gifts of the spirit... not sitting in a pew, listening to a hireling preach for money.
 
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