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The Latest Advance In Firearms Technology

A new company in Texas is selling a precision rifle with a unique technology that allows even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target 10 football fields away. The price tag is a staggering $27,500.

Tracking Point describes the weapon as a smartgun, with a trigger wired to the scope so that the gun won't fire until it's locked on the target that's been tagged.

"There are a number of people who say the gun shoots itself," said Chief Executive Officer Jason Schauble, a former Marine captain who was wounded in Iraq. "It doesn't. The shooter is always in the loop."
The TrackingPoint rifles, which are Wi-Fi enabled and have a color display so users can post videos of their shots on Facebook or YouTube, started shipping in May. Schauble said his company is on track to sell as many as 500 of them this year, to clients that he describes as "high net worth hunters" who want to kill big game at long range.
TrackingPoint claims that the gun took down a South African wildebeest at 1,103 yards, a company record.
The company also has a deal to sell about 1,000 of the guns to Remington, which is Schauble's former employer. But the Remington model will be less expensive, running about $5,000 each. TrackingPoint's total sales for the year are expected to be about $10 million.
Related: Remington jobs rule the rust belt
Lifelong hunter and construction executive Bob Ellis is one client who raves about the rifle. "I have not shot anything like it ever," he said in an email to CNNMoney. "The distance and accuracy of the rifle is a big WOW!"
Founder and chairman John McHale is a serial entrepreneur who's started several companies that were ultimately sold to Cisco (CSCO, Fortune 500), 3Com and Compaq, which was later bought by HP (HPQ, Fortune 500). Early in his career he worked on weapons accuracy systems for tanks. The idea for TrackingPoint came to McHale while he was on African safari and frustrated by his inability to shoot a gazelle at 300 yards.
Schauble is well aware of the damage that guns can do. His right hand is partially paralyzed after he was shot with an AK-47 during combat in Iraq. He wears black "kill bracelets" commemorating dead friends. He admitted that TrackingPoint's technology is "controversial."
Government agencies contacted the company last year for a demonstration of the weapon at a shooting range at the Quantico Marine Corps Base in Virginia. But Schauble says that the Department of Homeland Security didn't express any concerns that TrackingPoint's weapon is more of a threat than existing firearm systems.
Related: Four generations of gunsmiths, still going strong
The FBI, Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives all declined to comment to CNNMoney.
But the weapon has some "scary implications from a security perspective," said Rommel Dionisio, a gun industry analyst for Wedbush Securities.
"There are a handful of snipers who can hit a target at 1,000 yards. But now, anybody can do it," he said. "You can put some tremendous capability in the hands of just about anybody, even an untrained shooter."
Indeed, novice shooters from CNNMoney tried the gun and did hit targets 1,000 yards away.
What sets the TrackingPoint rifle apart is its high-tech electronic scope that automatically accounts for distance, gravity, wind speed, humidity, the rotation of the Earth and other variables that can influence whether a bullet hits its target.
The TrackingPoint scope allows the shooter to "tag" a target by placing a red dot on it within the crosshairs. Even when the safety is off and the shooter's finger pulls the trigger, the rifle will only fire when the crosshairs are locked on the red dot, making it relatively easy for even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target at long range.
Related: Assault rifles are selling out
Tracking Point charges from $22,500 to $27,500 for the different versions of its bolt-action rifle, which has a five-round magazine using .300 or .338 caliber ammunition.
Schauble hopes to land a contract with the U.S. military. He said that American soldiers could benefit not only from the long-range accuracy, but also the rifle's Wi-fi communications features.
"From a patriotic standpoint and as a veteran, I would love every soldier to be better armed today, and this technology could get them there," he said. ai.cdn.turner.com_money_images_bug.gif
 
A new company in Texas is selling a precision rifle with a unique technology that allows even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target 10 football fields away. The price tag is a staggering$27,500.

Tracking Point describes the weapon as a smartgun, with a trigger wired to the scope so that the gun won't fire until it's locked on the target that's been tagged.

"There are a number of people who say the gun shoots itself," said Chief Executive Officer Jason Schauble, a former Marine captain who was wounded in Iraq. "It doesn't. The shooter is always in the loop."
The TrackingPoint rifles, which are Wi-Fi enabled and have a color display so users can post videos of their shots on Facebook or YouTube, started shipping in May. Schauble said his company is on track to sell as many as 500 of them this year, to clients that he describes as "high net worth hunters" who want to kill big game at long range.
TrackingPoint claims that the gun took down a South African wildebeest at 1,103 yards, a company record.
The company also has a deal to sell about 1,000 of the guns to Remington, which is Schauble's former employer. But the Remington model will be less expensive, running about $5,000 each. TrackingPoint's total sales for the year are expected to be about $10 million.
Related: Remington jobs rule the rust belt
Lifelong hunter and construction executive Bob Ellis is one client who raves about the rifle. "I have not shot anything like it ever," he said in an email to CNNMoney. "The distance and accuracy of the rifle is a big WOW!"
Founder and chairman John McHale is a serial entrepreneur who's started several companies that were ultimately sold to Cisco (CSCO, Fortune 500), 3Com and Compaq, which was later bought by HP (HPQ, Fortune 500). Early in his career he worked on weapons accuracy systems for tanks. The idea for TrackingPoint came to McHale while he was on African safari and frustrated by his inability to shoot a gazelle at 300 yards.
Schauble is well aware of the damage that guns can do. His right hand is partially paralyzed after he was shot with an AK-47 during combat in Iraq. He wears black "kill bracelets" commemorating dead friends. He admitted that TrackingPoint's technology is "controversial."
Government agencies contacted the company last year for a demonstration of the weapon at a shooting range at the Quantico Marine Corps Base in Virginia. But Schauble says that the Department of Homeland Security didn't express any concerns that TrackingPoint's weapon is more of a threat than existing firearm systems.
Related: Four generations of gunsmiths, still going strong
The FBI, Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives all declined to comment to CNNMoney.
But the weapon has some "scary implications from a security perspective," said Rommel Dionisio, a gun industry analyst for Wedbush Securities.
"There are a handful of snipers who can hit a target at 1,000 yards. But now, anybody can do it," he said. "You can put some tremendous capability in the hands of just about anybody, even an untrained shooter."
Indeed, novice shooters from CNNMoney tried the gun and did hit targets 1,000 yards away.
What sets the TrackingPoint rifle apart is its high-tech electronic scope that automatically accounts for distance, gravity, wind speed, humidity, the rotation of the Earth and other variables that can influence whether a bullet hits its target.
The TrackingPoint scope allows the shooter to "tag" a target by placing a red dot on it within the crosshairs. Even when the safety is off and the shooter's finger pulls the trigger, the rifle will only fire when the crosshairs are locked on the red dot, making it relatively easy for even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target at long range.
Related: Assault rifles are selling out
Tracking Point charges from $22,500 to $27,500 for the different versions of its bolt-action rifle, which has a five-round magazine using .300 or .338 caliber ammunition.
Schauble hopes to land a contract with the U.S. military. He said that American soldiers could benefit not only from the long-range accuracy, but also the rifle's Wi-fi communications features.
"From a patriotic standpoint and as a veteran, I would love every soldier to be better armed today, and this technology could get them there," he said. ai.cdn.turner.com_money_images_bug.gif

...I saw this on the news last week - this is truly frightening technology that will surely become cheaper as time and competition moves forward.

...I do NOT see this as a positive development for society as a whole - do you?
 
Meanwhile back in the real world Wookie is going to plug products available to Joe Blow right now.



The gun store operator said the box is TSA certified. It's a great improvement over a standard factory case.
 
I don't think the average non shooter will be able to pick up this rifle and be able to accurately hit targets at a thousand yards.

It takes skill, aptitude and a lot of practice to be able to do that sort of shooting, the article sure does sell a lot of copy though.

I can walk into a sporting goods store and buy any number of hunting rifles and off the shelf ammunition (Bolt action, not AR15's 223 types) along with a powerful scope and with a little practice be able to hit targets well over 500-800 yards.

Hell the Marines did it at Belleaau Wood during WW1 at 400-500 yards with 03 Springfield bolt action rifles and iron sights.
 
I don't think the average non shooter will be able to pick up this rifle and be able to accurately hit targets at a thousand yards.

It takes skill, aptitude and a lot of practice to be able to do that sort of shooting, the article sure does sell a lot of copy though.

I can walk into a sporting goods store and buy any number of hunting rifles and off the shelf ammunition (Bolt action, not AR15's 223 types) along with a powerful scope and with a little practice be able to hit targets well over 500-800 yards.

Hell the Marines did it at Belleaau Wood during WW1 at 400-500 yards with 03 Springfield bolt action rifles and iron sights.

Gee, maybe you didn't read the article:

Indeed, novice shooters from CNNMoney tried the gun and did hit targets 1,000 yards away.

LeRoy: That, of course, directly contradicts your first few sentences.
 
A new company in Texas is selling a precision rifle with a unique technology that allows even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target 10 football fields away. The price tag is a staggering$27,500.

Tracking Point describes the weapon as a smartgun, with a trigger wired to the scope so that the gun won't fire until it's locked on the target that's been tagged.

"There are a number of people who say the gun shoots itself," said Chief Executive Officer Jason Schauble, a former Marine captain who was wounded in Iraq. "It doesn't. The shooter is always in the loop."
The TrackingPoint rifles, which are Wi-Fi enabled and have a color display so users can post videos of their shots on Facebook or YouTube, started shipping in May. Schauble said his company is on track to sell as many as 500 of them this year, to clients that he describes as "high net worth hunters" who want to kill big game at long range.
TrackingPoint claims that the gun took down a South African wildebeest at 1,103 yards, a company record.
The company also has a deal to sell about 1,000 of the guns to Remington, which is Schauble's former employer. But the Remington model will be less expensive, running about $5,000 each. TrackingPoint's total sales for the year are expected to be about $10 million.
Related: Remington jobs rule the rust belt
Lifelong hunter and construction executive Bob Ellis is one client who raves about the rifle. "I have not shot anything like it ever," he said in an email to CNNMoney. "The distance and accuracy of the rifle is a big WOW!"
Founder and chairman John McHale is a serial entrepreneur who's started several companies that were ultimately sold to Cisco (CSCO, Fortune 500), 3Com and Compaq, which was later bought by HP (HPQ, Fortune 500). Early in his career he worked on weapons accuracy systems for tanks. The idea for TrackingPoint came to McHale while he was on African safari and frustrated by his inability to shoot a gazelle at 300 yards.
Schauble is well aware of the damage that guns can do. His right hand is partially paralyzed after he was shot with an AK-47 during combat in Iraq. He wears black "kill bracelets" commemorating dead friends. He admitted that TrackingPoint's technology is "controversial."
Government agencies contacted the company last year for a demonstration of the weapon at a shooting range at the Quantico Marine Corps Base in Virginia. But Schauble says that the Department of Homeland Security didn't express any concerns that TrackingPoint's weapon is more of a threat than existing firearm systems.
Related: Four generations of gunsmiths, still going strong
The FBI, Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives all declined to comment to CNNMoney.
But the weapon has some "scary implications from a security perspective," said Rommel Dionisio, a gun industry analyst for Wedbush Securities.
"There are a handful of snipers who can hit a target at 1,000 yards. But now, anybody can do it," he said. "You can put some tremendous capability in the hands of just about anybody, even an untrained shooter."
Indeed, novice shooters from CNNMoney tried the gun and did hit targets 1,000 yards away.
What sets the TrackingPoint rifle apart is its high-tech electronic scope that automatically accounts for distance, gravity, wind speed, humidity, the rotation of the Earth and other variables that can influence whether a bullet hits its target.
The TrackingPoint scope allows the shooter to "tag" a target by placing a red dot on it within the crosshairs. Even when the safety is off and the shooter's finger pulls the trigger, the rifle will only fire when the crosshairs are locked on the red dot, making it relatively easy for even an inexperienced shooter to hit a target at long range.
Related: Assault rifles are selling out
Tracking Point charges from $22,500 to $27,500 for the different versions of its bolt-action rifle, which has a five-round magazine using .300 or .338 caliber ammunition.
Schauble hopes to land a contract with the U.S. military. He said that American soldiers could benefit not only from the long-range accuracy, but also the rifle's Wi-fi communications features.
"From a patriotic standpoint and as a veteran, I would love every soldier to be better armed today, and this technology could get them there," he said. ai.cdn.turner.com_money_images_bug.gif

High-tech, overpriced toy for rich guys... so what?
 
I suspect with this new toy, criminals will target their homes to be the first to steal them. It is actually fairly easy because even if the gunowner is at home as we have seen, breaking down the door quickly they will have time to shoot the homeowner as the homeowner fumbles in the stressful moment with trying to lock onto the target.

They had a funny experiment on TV where people (some who actually owned guns and were knowledgeable) were given blank shooting guns and as they sat in the classroom a gunman ran in and began firing blanks. The gun owners fell as they tried to grab their own bank guns and no one ever shoot the guy faking a crime. It was an eye opener to see what stress did to all of them.
 
High-tech, overpriced toy for rich guys... so what?

Two points:

(1) Is this not the ideal assassin's tool? If you are planning to kill some major political figure, if there is a conspiracy and some real money behind that, do you seriously think they are going to balk at a $27,000 price tag for a weapon that is almost GUARANTEED to get the job done?

(2) Do you have any clue as to how rapidly the price of a new technology generally falls? Have you, for instance, ever followed the prices of computers or big-screen TVs? Big-screen TVs used to be a rich man's toy. Today? Not so much.
 
I don't think the average non shooter will be able to pick up this rifle and be able to accurately hit targets at a thousand yards.

Probably can't "pick it up" and shoot it. I've only seen it fired from a tripod. There is really no need for this device to even look like a regular rifle, or to have a "trigger". I suspect that there is a legal reason for them to have maintained this configuration. The trigger doesn't operate the firing pin. The shooter simply chooses the target. It is a computer that does the shooting.

Still think it'd be more fun to have a drone.
 
It's basically just computerized wind doping. The basic technology has been around since at least the mid 1990s, although this is the first time its all been put in one package.
 
It's basically just computerized wind doping. The basic technology has been around since at least the mid 1990s, although this is the first time its all been put in one package.

I think it contradicts your claim that there have been no serious advances in firearms technology within the last century, Trap. In the article was this:

What sets the TrackingPoint rifle apart is its high-tech electronic scope that automatically accounts for distance, gravity, wind speed, humidity, the rotation of the Earth and other variables that can influence whether a bullet hits its target.

I am sorry, but there is NO WAY we could have done that sort of thing in 1900, or in 1950, or even in 1980.
 
I suspect with this new toy, criminals will target their homes to be the first to steal them. It is actually fairly easy because even if the gunowner is at home as we have seen, breaking down the door quickly they will have time to shoot the homeowner as the homeowner fumbles in the stressful moment with trying to lock onto the target.

They had a funny experiment on TV where people (some who actually owned guns and were knowledgeable) were given blank shooting guns and as they sat in the classroom a gunman ran in and began firing blanks. The gun owners fell as they tried to grab their own bank guns and no one ever shoot the guy faking a crime. It was an eye opener to see what stress did to all of them.

The guys who have the disposable income to buy a system like this are going to have gun safes that would take a week to get into. I wouldn't worry too much about them being stolen. And no one would try to use a rifle like that for home defense.
Yeah, I saw that one; it was BS. A few of those guys had shot before but none of them had any actual self-defense training. The "attacker" was a trained instructor who deliberately targeted the "students" in the "classroom scenario" that he knew beforehand were armed. This is what we call being "set up for failure"; the whole exercise was designed to discredit the idea of concealed carriers being able to defend themselves.
 
I think it contradicts your claim that there have been no serious advances in firearms technology within the last century, Trap. In the article was this:

What sets the TrackingPoint rifle apart is its high-tech electronic scope that automatically accounts for distance, gravity, wind speed, humidity, the rotation of the Earth and other variables that can influence whether a bullet hits its target.

I am sorry, but there is NO WAY we could have done that sort of thing in 1900, or in 1950, or even in 1980.

Again, I don't think this is per se an advance in firearms technology. It's an advance in aming systems, and only an incremental advance as the basic technology has been around for at least 15 years. What does the gun do? It crushes a primer, ignites a propellant and launches a bullet of a specific weight at a specific velocity -- exactly as it would have 100 years ago.
 
Again, I don't think this is per se an advance in firearms technology. It's an advance in aming systems, and only an incremental advance as the basic technology has been around for at least 15 years. What does the gun do? It crushes a primer, ignites a propellant and launches a bullet of a specific weight at a specific velocity -- exactly as it would have 100 years ago.

You're an amazing piece of work, Trap. OF COURSE this is a MAJOR advance in firearms technology. It allows COMPLETELY NOVICE shooters to hit targets a thousand yards away. By ANY RATIONAL definition, that is an advance in technology.

If you like, I can give you DEFINITIONS of what constitutes a technological advance, from our BEST technological historians, Trap. You're simply out of the woods on this issue.
 
Two points:

(1) Is this not the ideal assassin's tool? If you are planning to kill some major political figure, if there is a conspiracy and some real money behind that, do you seriously think they are going to balk at a $27,000 price tag for a weapon that is almost GUARANTEED to get the job done?

(2) Do you have any clue as to how rapidly the price of a new technology generally falls? Have you, for instance, ever followed the prices of computers or big-screen TVs? Big-screen TVs used to be a rich man's toy. Today? Not so much.

Think about the logistics; the bullets haven't changed, they still only fly so far. So you would have to get to a spot within that range and then set this thing up, and hope the guy you want exposes himself to a clear shot. A good PSD team will interdict anyone who tries that, because they are already sweeping for snipers within that envelope. Yeah, I'm not seeing any real advantage to this. It's probably cheaper than selecting and training a military sniper, but that's the only benefit I see.
 
You're an amazing piece of work, Trap. OF COURSE this is a MAJOR advance in firearms technology. It allows COMPLETELY NOVICE shooters to hit targets a thousand yards away. By ANY RATIONAL definition, that is an advance in technology.

If you like, I can give you DEFINITIONS of what constitutes a technological advance, from our BEST technological historians, Trap. You're simply out of the woods on this issue.

No, it allows people who have been trained to use a complex scope system to hit targets thousands of meters away. I does this through a complex computer algorythmn that analyzes air, specific density and windspeed. There used to be a scope that plugged into a Palm Pilot to do the same thing (but you didn't read that in the news, did you?). It doesn't change the firearm its mounted on, ergo, it's not an advance in firearms technology.
 
The guys who have the disposable income to buy a system like this are going to have gun safes that would take a week to get into. I wouldn't worry too much about them being stolen. And no one would try to use a rifle like that for home defense.
Yeah, I saw that one; it was BS. A few of those guys had shot before but none of them had any actual self-defense training. The "attacker" was a trained instructor who deliberately targeted the "students" in the "classroom scenario" that he knew beforehand were armed. This is what we call being "set up for failure"; the whole exercise was designed to discredit the idea of concealed carriers being able to defend themselves.

I thought it was funny as hell and more true than false. I managed to survive a situation and the difference between being a victim or not can often be not what weapons you have but how quickly you can think in stressful moments when seconds count. Mine was a gunless, weaponless encounter and my quickness mattered.
 
Think about the logistics; the bullets haven't changed, they still only fly so far. So you would have to get to a spot within that range and then set this thing up, and hope the guy you want exposes himself to a clear shot. A good PSD team will interdict anyone who tries that, because they are already sweeping for snipers within that envelope. Yeah, I'm not seeing any real advantage to this. It's probably cheaper than selecting and training a military sniper, but that's the only benefit I see.

Yeah, that explains how we were able to stop Lee Harvey Oswald from killing John F. Kennedy......
 
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