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I always get a virus warning pop up when clicking on anything from Democratic Underground.

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I dunno MaryAnne....what do you think

Comin' from someone in a black beret callin' herself ichincarpenter in a blog callin' itself Democratic Underground doesn't do much for me. I'm guessin' though by postin' it, it means you've been won over.

Anyways...if that's a source ya put yer faith in about the cult, ya might wanna get in touch with someone who could confirm it for ya....this guy fer instance.

As fer existing theocracies and which cult wants someone in power to establish one here, ya might wanna ferget ichincarpenter and pay some attention to this guy , and what he's done so far.


· April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren't like them.” 1

· February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011. 2

· April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus' name be covered when he is making his speech. 3

· May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House. 4 [/B]

· April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three. 5

· October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions. 6

· November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law. 7

· January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court. 8

· February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress. 9

· April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring. 10

· August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception. 11

· November 2011 – Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt’s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial. 12

· November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving speech. 13

· December 2011 – The Obama administration denigrates other countries' religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights. 14

· January 2012 – The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis. 15

· February 2012 – The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion. 16

2. Acts Of Hostility From The Obama-Led Military Toward People Of
Biblical Faith:

· June 2011 – The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery. 17

· August 2011 – The Air Force stops teaching the Just War theory to officers in California because the course is taught by chaplains and is based on a philosophy introduced by St. Augustine in the third century AD – a theory long taught by civilized nations across the world (except America). 18

· September 2011 – Air Force Chief of Staff prohibits commanders from notifying airmen of programs and services available to them from chaplains. 19

· September 2011 – The Army issues guidelines for Walter Reed Medical Center stipulating that “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading materials and/or facts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” 20

· November 2011 – The Air Force Academy rescinds support for Operation Christmas Child, a program to send holiday gifts to impoverished children across the world, because the program is run by a Christian charity. 21

· November 2011 – The Air Force Academy pays $80,000 to add a Stonehenge-like worship center for pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans. 22

· February 2012 – The U. S. Military Academy at West Point dis-invites three star Army general and decorated war hero, Lieutenant General William G. (“Jerry”) Boykin (retired) from speaking at an event because he is an outspoken Christian. 23

· February 2012 – The Air Force removes “God” from the patch of Rapid Capabilities Office (the word on the patch was in Latin: Dei). 24

· February 2012 – The Army orders Catholic chaplains not to read a letter to parishioners that their archbishop asked them to read. 25

3. Acts Of Hostility Toward Biblical Values:

· January 2009 – Obama lifts restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, forcing taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. 26

· January 2009 – President Obama’s nominee for deputy secretary of state asserts that American taxpayers are required to pay for abortions and that limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional. 27

· March 2009 – The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. 28

· March 2009 – Obama orders taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research. 29

· March 2009 – Obama gave $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that promotes abortion and works closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations. 30

· May 2009 – The White House budget eliminates all funding for abstinence-only education and replaces it with “comprehensive” sexual education, repeatedly proven to increase teen pregnancies and abortions. 31 He continues the deletion in subsequent budgets. 32

· May 2009 – Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their “criminal” activities.33

· July 2009 – The Obama administration illegally extends federal benefits to same-sex partners of Foreign Service and Executive Branch employees, in direction violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 34

· September 16, 2009 – The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should “not tolerate” any “private beliefs,” including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual “equality.” 35

· July 2010 – The Obama administration uses federal funds in violation of federal law to get Kenya to change its constitution to include abortion. 36

· August 2010 – The Obama administration Cuts funding for 176 abstinence education programs. 37

· September 2010 – The Obama administration tells researchers to ignore a judge’s decision striking down federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. 38

· February 2011 – Obama directs the Justice Department to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 39

· March 2011 – The Obama administration refuses to investigate videos showing Planned Parenthood helping alleged sex traffickers get abortions for victimized underage girls. 40

· July 2011 – Obama allows homosexuals to serve openly in the military, reversing a policy originally instituted by George Washington in March 1778. 41

· September 2011 – The Pentagon directs that military chaplains may perform same-sex marriages at military facilities in violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 42

· October 2011 – The Obama administration eliminates federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for their extensive programs that aid victims of human trafficking because the Catholic Church is anti-abortion. 43

4. Acts Of Preferentialism For Islam:

· May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan.44

· April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community. 45

· April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc. 46

· August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity. 47

· August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location. 48

· 2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha. 49

· October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House. 50

· February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, 51 but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do. 52
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Ohhh...and this list doesn't include exemptin muslims' from his healthcare pogrom.

PS...the numbers refer to the reference sources...uhhh... unlike ichincarpenter I'm bettin' you know what a source is doncha? ....anyway the reference sources are on my post "Recap"...and the material is from David Barton.
 
I thought Obama's religion, religious background, and religious mentors were not essential information towards making a decision regarding his fitness to be president.

Of course these things are now highly indicative of Romney's inability to serve the high office.

Go figure!
 
Dino said:
I thought Obama's religion, religious background, and religious mentors were not essential information towards making a decision regarding his fitness to be president.

Of course these things are now highly indicative of Romney's inability to serve the high office.

Go figure!
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Really, go figure. After being inundated with Rev. Wright tales...and of Obama's secret black liberation Muslim faith for years...now religion is OFF the table...

Yes...you know what is being discussed here. You see it everywhere, except right in front of you.
 
I have no idea what is true or false about the Morman religion. I can only go by those who have been there,or are there today.

We have one temple here and I know one woman from the religion.

And Boca,That is not what my top post is about. I asked a question and those backing Romeny simply took a pass on answering. So far,nothing except a high jack of the top post. It is clear no one wants to answer.

We did have one former member of the religion on KFS. He now posts on Daily Kos,but did fill us in on what he thought.

Have a nice day.
 
Is his "black liberation" faith a "secret"? I don't think so. He did sit in that church for 20 years after all.

It's not a "secret" or a conspiracy, it is a FACT you fools chose to ignore.

And the "tales" of Wright? Truthful, they have tape to prove it.
 
Dino said:
Is his "black liberation" faith a "secret"? I don't think so. He did sit in that church for 20 years after all.

It's not a "secret" or a conspiracy, it is a FACT you fools chose to ignore.

And the "tales" of Wright? Truthful, they have tape to prove it.
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Yes...the right attacked Obama's religion and continues to do so...yet you now believe Romney's should be off the table. Yes...you KNOW what is being discussed.
 
I know what I'm discussing. I don't know what point you think you're making.

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. We were called all sorts of names for bringing up the facts and told how trivial and petty these points were.
Now look at what you need to condone to criticize the Republican in the race.

This type of hypocrisy doesn't bother you?
 
Dino said:
I know what I'm discussing. I don't know what point you think you're making.

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. We were called all sorts of names for bringing up the facts and told how trivial and petty these points were.
Now look at what you need to condone to criticize the Republican in the race.

This type of hypocrisy doesn't bother you?
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No more than it bothers Republicans, Karl Rove is the supreme master of hypocrisy. Republicans have mastered the art of equivalancy, I see it on every topic, no matter how small, that is posted on this board. Do you really let a little hypocrisy get in the way of making your talking points? Really? Nothing funnier than Republicans trying to take the moral high ground on fiscal responsibilty and family values, with your miserable records on both.
 
Dino said:
I know what I'm discussing. I don't know what point you think you're making.

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. We were called all sorts of names for bringing up the facts and told how trivial and petty these points were.
Now look at what you need to condone to criticize the Republican in the race.

This type of hypocrisy doesn't bother you?
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And I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. It clearly doesn't bother you, as you continue to revel in it.

It's stunning that you still make posts about Obama's years with Wright, but argue that we shouldn't be discussing Romney's religion.
 
My personal responsibility and family values are unimpeachable. I'm not a hypocrite in any aspect.

The same cannot be said for you posters here.

I hold Democrats and Republicans up to some standard I feel acceptable, and I don't vote or donate to any who don't match up. I would expect the same from the folks here- but you've proven to be nothing if not unprincipled.

That's what I'm pointing out.
 
I'm not saying we shouldn't be discussing Romney's religion.

Just pointing out the people talking Romney's religion now disregarded, even chastized, discussions of Obama's.

I'm not hypocritical anywhere here whatsoever. I'd dare you to show where I am or admit you're lying.
 
True.

Ex-Mo's are the only voice of separation of church/temple and government in Utah aka the Homeland. Anyone who doubts it can start their research by investigating how Utah laws get passed or fail on the state level. In most cases any law has to have the blessings of the Mormon Temple to pass.

Check into the California Proposition 8 bill as that was an example of the Temple crossing borders. You'll have to dig in to how financing was achieved as it fell on California Mormon's to also do Utah's Temple bidding.

Check into when Mitt actually sold his Utah home. Make no mistake about it, Mitt is a serious Morman and smart enough to sell it just before he ran to disolve ties to the Temple.

Check into how many trips he made to Utah for Temple fund raising before and after his announcement.

A little known fact: Jon Huntsman is also a Mormon but he would be what is described as a Jack Mormon and less fanatical. He could not raise Temple dime.

All new home subdivisions require X amount of property to be set aside for a Mormon Stake (church) so they can be seen at times within each subdivision, sometimes more than one.

Children of Mormon's shun the non-Mormon children of neighbors in often cruel ways.

Every month the Bishop's park in every neighborhood to collect the tithing from each Mormon household. It has the appearance of a Mafia visit as they troll to each home to go over your earning records and set the amount for that collection, knock on the door and collect the money no matter how poor. If you do not hand it over you are not allowed in the Temple.

Living there for 5 years was the most horrifying and oppressive eye opener I think I have ever experienced.

The Temple IS the Government and make no mistake about it, the true Mormon MUST concede to the Temple. It is the Homeland. Most readers here will not understand that statement.

For me it is a cult that most Christians and athiests will never understand. Mormon's will NEVER tell the truth and will package themselves as "Just like you" for the ultimate goal. They know how to do that and they do it well. I am reminded of the survey to find the Happiest state in America and the poll was based around responses from residents. Utah came in 1st and yet they are miserable and lead in some very depressing categories. They are an unhappy people with a smile on their face that lights up the world. Fake. You'll never know how miserable they are. Know what we called a headline spouse murder? The Mormon divorce.

Am I jaded? Nope just being honest but few reading this will believe it and that is ok by me. My own view is I am so happy to get out of "Happy Valley" Utah (look those two words up) I feel like I am back in America.

I would vote for Jon Huntsman - the Jack Mormon, but never, never, never for the real Mormon Mitt. Know how you can recognise a serious Utah Mormon zombie? Look at their stiff body language and listen to the often odd words that come out of their mouths. They are fully oppressed.

Ex-mo's and Jack-Mormon's or out of state Mormon's do not ordinarily suffer the same afflictions. Mitt does. The body discomfort you see in Mitt that seems odd is quite common in the Homeland.
 
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