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Union busting?

PhilFish said:
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Biden calls on Congress to head off potential rail strike

President Joe Biden is calling on Congress to pass legislation to intervene and block a railroad strike before next month’s deadline in the stalled contract talks.
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Difficult decisions ahead as Biden and Congress mull imposing terms on the rail union...

Eek. Seems very Russian....eh comrade?
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He’s obviously not busting the union. He’s calling for approval of the deal that was reached, although he would sweeten it in numerous respects.

That canard aside, he’s asking Congress to move to avoid economic calamity. Avoiding economic calamity should be seen as a worthy goal. So it will go up for a vote in the House and Senate. The Republicans will no doubt consider whether they can engage in sabotage while keeping their fingerprints off the damage they want to do. Should be interesting.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
He’s obviously not busting the union. He’s calling for approval of the deal that was reached, although he would sweeten it in numerous respects.

That canard aside, he’s asking Congress to move to avoid economic calamity. Avoiding economic calamity should be seen as a worthy goal. So it will go up for a vote in the House and Senate. The Republicans will no doubt consider whether they can engage in sabotage while keeping their fingerprints off the damage they want to do. Should be interesting.
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what sort of sabotage do you envision the republicans engaging in?
 
PhilFish said:
ok. but compelling the union is an unfair labor practice and negates the collective bargaining process..
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Nope. Congress sets the labor laws. They have the power. It would certainly not be an unfair labor process, and the collective bargaining process has been exhausted. There are two remaking choices:

1. Pass the bill, or

2. Watch the railroads be shut down with the economy being devastated.

Which of those options should be chosen?
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nope. Congress sets the labor laws. They have the power. It would certainly not be an unfair labor process, and the collective bargaining process has been exhausted. There are two remaking choices:

1. Pass the bill, or

2. Watch the railroads be shut down with the economy being devastated.

Which of those options should be chosen?
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Or 3. Give the union everything they want, and f*ck the shareholders. Everybody is a winner.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nope. Congress sets the labor laws. They have the power. It would certainly not be an unfair labor process, and the collective bargaining process has been exhausted. There are two remaking choices:

1. Pass the bill, or

2. Watch the railroads be shut down with the economy being devastated.

Which of those options should be chosen?
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perhaps neither. why do you limit the options are you for a quashing of the collective bargaining process?
 
PhilFish said:
apnews.com

Biden calls on Congress to head off potential rail strike

President Joe Biden is calling on Congress to pass legislation to intervene and block a railroad strike before next month’s deadline in the stalled contract talks.
apnews.com apnews.com

Difficult decisions ahead as Biden and Congress mull imposing terms on the rail union...

Eek. Seems very Russian....eh comrade?
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I have several friends and family that work for UP. From what they are telling me, the union negotiated an agreement with the railroad companies, but it has yet to get an up/down vote by the membership.

If Biden and Congress step in and force the deal the two companies (railroad and union) agreeed to, without letting the membership vote, that's the same as circumventing the will of the people. Not a great way to keep the union in your back pocket.
 
Number_58 said:
I have several friends and family that work for UP. From what they are telling me, the union negotiated an agreement with the railroad companies, but it has yet to get an up/down vote by the membership.

If Biden and Congress step in and force the deal the two companies (railroad and union) agreeed to, without letting the membership vote, that's the same as circumventing the will of the people. Not a great way to keep the union in your back pocket.
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my understandng is that there is an issue with sick time...and one of the unions voted against.

apparently this administration seeks to force it on them....this anti union anti collective bargaining move is apparently a good idea to some.....but if the republicans vote such a lousy move down..then theyre sabotaging...

mind numbing ... affording sick and PTO time equitably should be in everyones interest...
 
PhilFish said:
ok. but compelling the union is an unfair labor practice and negates the collective bargaining process..
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Nah. C’mon Phil…you KNOW the idiotic adolescent, liquid-standard, have-it-both-ways, self-exempting, mentally-deficient drill…

It is wrong and unfair when non-Democrats like Reagan do it. It is “masterful” “remarkable” “perfection” when Democrats do it…the very definition of responsible, brilliant economic and social stewardship.

Do better!
 
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