Wait! What???

[Lukey]

On Meet the Press this morning the host was interviewing Robert Gates and he framed one of his questions by quoting President Obama as saying one of his biggest mistakes was not having a plan for Libya after taking out Gadaffi. WTF? Isn't that exactly what his administration (rightly) criticized about Bush's Iraq invasion???

I mean, come on, that's really pretty [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous. How can anyone say this is anything but a completely failed Administration???

 

[Dawg]

that's different

 

[Jen]

The Obama administration is a total failure.
Bush DID have a plan for Iraq but Obama failed to implement it.

 

[gabriel]

The Obama administration is a total failure.
Bush DID have a plan for Iraq but Obama failed to implement it.

lol! good one!!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

On Meet the Press this morning the host was interviewing Robert Gates and he framed one of his questions by quoting President Obama as saying one of his biggest mistakes was not having a plan for Libya after taking out Gadaffi. WTF? Isn't that exactly what his administration (rightly) criticized about Bush's Iraq invasion???

I mean, come on, that's really pretty [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous. How can anyone say this is anything but a completely failed Administration???

The big difference is that Obama is honest and admits to a mistake.

The grotesquely dishonest Bushies never admitted to their countless horrendous blunders in Iraq, including their failure to plan for a post-conquest Iraq.

Of course, the Bushies had months to plan for a post-conquest Iraq, while Obama and NATO allies had a very short time to plan for what would happen in Libya after the NATO decision to halt Ghaddafi's genocide.

 

[resident_evil]

On Meet the Press this morning the host was interviewing Robert Gates and he framed one of his questions by quoting President Obama as saying one of his biggest mistakes was not having a plan for Libya after taking out Gadaffi. WTF? Isn't that exactly what his administration (rightly) criticized about Bush's Iraq invasion???

I mean, come on, that's really pretty [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous. How can anyone say this is anything but a completely failed Administration???

I've been asking this from the beginning. What is the difference between what Bush did in Iraq and what Obama did in Libya and the left on this forum has never answered.

 

[resident_evil]

Of course, the Bushies had months to plan for a post-conquest Iraq, while Obama and NATO allies had a very short time to plan for what would happen in Libya after the NATO decision to halt Ghaddafi's genocide.

Excuses are like -------- everyone has got one. And you have Obama.

 

[Lukey]

The big difference is that Obama is honest and admits to a mistake.

The grotesquely dishonest Bushies never admitted to their countless horrendous blunders in Iraq, including their failure to plan for a post-conquest Iraq.

Of course, the Bushies had months to plan for a post-conquest Iraq, while Obama and NATO allies had a very short time to plan for what would happen in Libya after the NATO decision to halt Ghaddafi's genocide.

Idiotic! He had the Bush debacle, which he criticized for not having a plan for the post invasion, as an example of what NOT to do, and yet he still failed to have a plan for post invasion Libya? I've seen crass sycophancy but you, sir, take the cake.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

On Meet the Press this morning the host was interviewing Robert Gates and he framed one of his questions by quoting President Obama as saying one of his biggest mistakes was not having a plan for Libya after taking out Gadaffi. WTF? Isn't that exactly what his administration (rightly) criticized about Bush's Iraq invasion???

I mean, come on, that's really pretty [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous. How can anyone say this is anything but a completely failed Administration???

So Obama went to war for oil with no exit strategy. Now more than ever....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The big difference is that Obama is honest and admits to a mistake.

The grotesquely dishonest Bushies never admitted to their countless horrendous blunders in Iraq, including their failure to plan for a post-conquest Iraq.

Of course, the Bushies had months to plan for a post-conquest Iraq, while Obama and NATO allies had a very short time to plan for what would happen in Libya after the NATO decision to halt Ghaddafi's genocide.

Well at least you can admit Obama's dismal foreign policy endeavors.

There may be hope for you yet!

 

[NinaS]

I've been asking this from the beginning. What is the difference between what Bush did in Iraq and what Obama did in Libya and the left on this forum has never answered.

Over 4000 dead American troops and over 30,000 maimed American troops.

 

[Caroljo]

Over 4000 dead American troops and over 30,000 maimed American troops.

The resulting Libyan civil war.....thanks to Obama...these are just the deaths, not including the maimed. I'd say Obama beat Bush by a mile.

Estimates of deaths in the Libyan Civil War vary with figures from 2,500 to 25,000 given between March 2 and October 2, 2011.[1][2] An exact figure is hard to ascertain, partly due to a media clamp-down by the Libyan government. Some conservative estimates have been released. Some of the killing "may amount to crimes against humanity" according to the United Nations Security Council[3] and as of March 2011, is under investigation by the International Criminal Court.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2011_Libyan_Civil_War

 

[Dawg]

Over 4000 dead American troops and over 30,000 maimed American troops.

Troops deaths doubled in Afghan under Θ, why don't your libs post those? At least Bush didn't trade a Deserter for Terrorist.

 

[Spamature]

On Meet the Press this morning the host was interviewing Robert Gates and he framed one of his questions by quoting President Obama as saying one of his biggest mistakes was not having a plan for Libya after taking out Gadaffi. WTF? Isn't that exactly what his administration (rightly) criticized about Bush's Iraq invasion???

I mean, come on, that's really pretty [Unwelcome language removed] ridiculous. How can anyone say this is anything but a completely failed Administration???

The goal in Libya was to stop the regime for slaughtering its people. bush was blamed for not having and exit strategy after invading, taking down the govt and occupying Iraq. We didn't invade Libya. We did not take control of the country. That would have mean using US troops to enforce our plans.

Are you saying he and other nations should have let the slaughter continue unabated ?

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Over 4000 dead American troops and over 30,000 maimed American troops.

A terrible thing, no doubt Bush and Co. made a clusterfuck of Iraq and Afghanistan. However, I find it interesting you make no mention of Obama tripling the US casualty rate in Afghanistan. Why do dead Americans only concern you when a Republican is in the White House?

I'm probably being too optimistic in hoping you realize your credibility is harmed by this concern for US troops that seems to come and go quite conveniently.

 

[Stardust]

The resulting Libyan civil war.....thanks to Obama...these are just the deaths, not including the maimed. I'd say Obama beat Bush by a mile.

Estimates of deaths in the Libyan Civil War vary with figures from 2,500 to 25,000 given between March 2 and October 2, 2011.[1][2] An exact figure is hard to ascertain, partly due to a media clamp-down by the Libyan government. Some conservative estimates have been released. Some of the killing "may amount to crimes against humanity" according to the United Nations Security Council[3] and as of March 2011, is under investigation by the International Criminal Court.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2011_Libyan_Civil_War

Yeah, Ghadafi and maniac dictatorships love to use genocide whenever the slaves get to large in number and there is a threat to their feeble regimes!
I think Obama's greatest problem lies in his association with the Muslim Brotherhood who sends their henchmen terrorists in to these countries to create revolts, then the Dictator wipes out the strongest revolutionaries. The international community then responds (NATO, US Military) and once they have killed off the Dictator, then the Well educated and well funded Muslim Brotherhood swoops in to participate in "forming" a new government and running for office. Of course, the Muslim Brotherhood are of the Sunni Wahabi Sharia Law variety, who are the most brutal dictators in the Middle East. And the best part is, they're a little smarter than the likes of Dictator's like Ghadafi so they'll commit their brutal atrocities more discreetly, say call in their terrorists so commit acts of brutality, etc.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Well at least you can admit Obama's dismal foreign policy endeavors.

There may be hope for you yet!

Actually, I merely noted what Obama said.

Try to pay attention.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Idiotic! He had the Bush debacle, which he criticized for not having a plan for the post invasion, as an example of what NOT to do, and yet he still failed to have a plan for post invasion Libya? I've seen crass sycophancy but you, sir, take the cake.

And again, Obama himself said he made a mistake. You simply again screech "Obama made a mistake!"

And again, you simply ignore the distinctions I noted between the GWB/Iraq madness and the Obama/NATO/Libya situation. Your mindless hackery requires you to ignore what I said.

 

[resident_evil]

Over 4000 dead American troops and over 30,000 maimed American troops.

The bulk maimed and killed because of political correctness foisted on the enterprise by our socialist-communist flapping their gums about empire and stealing oil.

The rewards of Obama's policies have yet to bear fruit. ISIS all over Africa, the Middle East and the Far East. The hyper accelerated invasion of Sharia ideology into the heart of Western civilization alone may well reap great disaster and all thanks to Obama and his lack of plans.

 

[NinaS]

The resulting Libyan civil war.....thanks to Obama...these are just the deaths, not including the maimed. I'd say Obama beat Bush by a mile.

Estimates of deaths in the Libyan Civil War vary with figures from 2,500 to 25,000 given between March 2 and October 2, 2011.[1][2] An exact figure is hard to ascertain, partly due to a media clamp-down by the Libyan government. Some conservative estimates have been released. Some of the killing "may amount to crimes against humanity" according to the United Nations Security Council[3] and as of March 2011, is under investigation by the International Criminal Court.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2011_Libyan_Civil_War

Well since even you should be bright enough to figure out I was talking about AMERICAN SOLDIER'S DEATHS and our soldier's coming home without limbs, faces, etc. your post is reaching pretty damned far.

Since you are talking about the deaths of CITIZENS of other countries...then you better check out how many died from our attacks in Iraq.....far many more than you are talking about here. Hell, I even wrote AMERICAN TROOPS...but you don't seem to be able to grasp any kind of reading comprehension. American Troops: The total in Iraq between 2003 (March) and the end of 2008 was 4222 Americans killed (Bush's watch) The total in Iraq between Jan 2009 (and actually...Bush was still in charge in Jan, but I'll count that on Obama since you're bent on him taking responsibility for Bush's BS..and up to now...Iraq death count (under Obama watch 630.
In Afghanistan...Bush 2001-beginning of 2008...630 Obama 2009=now 1751. TOTAL TROOPS KILLED UNDER BUSH....4497 UNDER OBAMA 2381

http://icasualties.org/

When you are talking about civilian deaths, you better get a clue and read something besides Breitbart and Fox News.