Would Zimmerman have even
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connieb
Senator
Hard to say. I am inclined to say he is otherwise a wussie... but he was taking MMA classes, so maybe he was trying to not be such a wus. I tend to think though he never actually expected a confrontation and probably didn't even really think about it. It did sort of seem spur of the moment, he was going out to the store himself, etc. Its not like he left the house that night to go walk around the neighborhood on watch..
BobbyT
Governor
It appears he was always "on watch."
connieb
Senator
Well, I am always paying attention to what is going on in my neighborhood, too. But, to me there is a difference between someone who always carries a weapon, and someone who goes to leave the house to take a patrol and straps on his gun.
connie
BobbyT
Governor
I agree, which prompted my original question: would Z have been quite so brave in 'confronting' a 'suspect' if he were not armed? If the answer is yes, then Z created a situation where no situation actually existed simply because he felt braver because he had a gun. That alone is, to me, a compelling argument for gun control. One of the factors that should have been taken into consideration when deciding whether Z should have the privilege of owning a gun is the fact that he'd been ordered to take anger management classes. People who have anger management problems should not be trusted with firearms when interacting with the general public.
connieb
Senator
Well, from my perspective, I would never dream that asking a kid where he was going and what he was up to would result in a physical confrontation where I would feel I needed a weapon. Either the kid would run away, or they would answer.
But, I would agree that a person with an anager management problem should not have a weapon and certainly not a CC license. I would completely agree that for a person like Zimmerman to have passed the background check as a non-law enforcement person to get a CC there were some loopholes.
BobbyT
Governor
As to your first point: I think it depends upon how the question is posed. As to your second: indeed.
Zimmerman's pal said that Zim said he was headed to the store....not that he was "on patrol".
Zimmerman is a # 2 on my "levels of gun ownership."
1. If you own a gun for protection and keep it properly secured in your home, that’s fine.
2. If you carry a gun with the fantasy of taking out some bad guys, you should have your head examined.
3. If you have a stockpile of guns to fight the government, you need to be put on a watch list.
Bugsy McGurk
President
Zimmie the Liar sez he forgot he had his gun until Trayvon grabbed for it.
He told two lies within that one sentence.
Would Trayvon have attacked Zimmerman if he, Trayvon, had not been on drugs?
There's no doubt he'd have stayed in his vehicle but he still would have reported the "suspect". That's how cowards are...they cry like little girls. Betcha he was the biggest tattle tale ever when he was in grade school.
LOL...that's a joke. I bet he takes it with him when he sits on the pot for 45 min. Can you imagine how often they have to have the rotor rooter man out to unclog their toilet? Why on earth would anyone need their concealed carry to go t Target. He was probably afraid someone would jump out on him between the donut and candy aisles.
I've read the rules of the Neighborhood Watch Program. They aren't supposed to be carrying a gun. But then they aren't supposed to pursue anyone either.
Right...to get his groceries for the week. I don't know whether he had his uhaul on the back of his truck or not.
marvin martian
Emperor
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Dino
Russian Asset
Yes, I think he would have.
Did carrying ther gun give him courage? Always works for me.
I think he was most confident because he phoned for the police before taking any action. That showed he did not feel it necessary to handle the situation himself.
Zimmerman lies just for the heck of it, no doubt. I wonder if those here who always said ....What Lies?? Or what inconsistencies?? watched the closing statement today of the Prosecutor. MANY inconsistencies were pointed out. Rather...out an out lies.
And there's no way he could have forgotten he had a gun with him. There's NO WAY he'd have gotten out of his vehicle without it and a "suspect" in the neighborhood.
Anyone who'd scream like a little girl over a 17 yr old much smaller has no right to be carrying a gun...he is a wanna=be and a sissy coward.
I don't know where any one has gotten the idea that Zimmerman asked him where he was going or what he was up to. And that is from Zimmerman's own statements. He said the kid approached him and asked..."Do you have a problem?" Zimmerman claims he said..."NO, I don't have a problem, man" Then when he reached into his pocket to get his cell phone (while he was peeing his pants) Trayvon hit him in the nose. Do I believe that? Yes...because him reaching into his pocket would have made anyone fear he was reaching for a gun. There's no way in hell he'd EVER approach anyone without his gun. And who knows...maybe he pulled it out before Martin hit him. He has been known to lie. He didn't need a gun to go to Target to get groceries. It's too bad he didnt' make it to Target before he spotted Trayvon. Then I suppose there could have been a killing at Target if some pre-schooler stole his twinkies out of his cart and he started screaming like the wuss he is for the Security.
