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I Sure Hope Trump Does Not Claim There Are Fine People On Both Sides of This Tragedy

kaz

Small l libertarian
The Christchurch shooter spoke positively of trump, actually. You didn’t know that? And Pittsburgh wasn’t anti-trump, but love that you make up your own facts. LOL.

This is yet another pro-trump terrorist.

*Edited*
That's a lie. He specifically said he's anti-Trump
 

llovejim

Current Champion
You don't think it's sad because it's not true. So obviously you only see it that way because you want to see it that way.

Every "racist" Trump quote by the left is a lie
no, your denying trump has never made a racist remark is the lie. besides the fine people on both sides when only racists were on one side.....he also railed against so many immigrants here, not illegal, just immigrants, being here from "shithole countries," all of whom being majority black or brown countries, specifically Jamaica and Haiti and Mexico who were being discussed at these meetings......the kicker was when he said, "why can't there be more from norway?" yeah, it is laughably stupid, but it is also racist. trump is a racist and bigot and a sexist and the biggest confirmed liar in history...and it is not just me saying that, it is everyone with an IQ above that of a tube of toothpaste who PAYS ATTENTION.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
well, because good people do not honor racist traitors to this country. or just traitors to this country. or just racists. but put them both together....and NO ONE IS A FINE PERSON WHO WANTS TAXPAYER MONEY USED TO DISPLAY AND MAINTAIN ANY STATUES BUILT TO HONOR SOUTHERN SOLDIERS WHO WERE TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY, WHO DID ALL THEY COULD TO KILL AS MANY AMERICAN SOLDIERS CLEARLY FIGHTING UNDER THE US FLAG, AS THEY COULD, IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE GODDAMN IMMORAL INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY.
A socialist is complaining about how taxpayer money is spent? Classic.

You obviously don't live in the south. I am a northerner, but I spent a couple decades living here (North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, Florida). To say that southerners see civil war statues and think of slavery is just northern arrogance and bigotry.

Note I'm also agreeing that while I don't have a problem with the statues, I think good people can want them taken down too. Trump and I are both just more tolerant than you are
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
no, your denying trump has never made a racist remark is the lie. besides the fine people on both sides when only racists were on one side.....he also railed against so many immigrants here, not illegal, just immigrants, being here from "shithole countries," all of whom being majority black or brown countries, specifically Jamaica and Haiti and Mexico who were being discussed at these meetings......the kicker was when he said, "why can't there be more from norway?" yeah, it is laughably stupid, but it is also racist. trump is a racist and bigot and a sexist and the biggest confirmed liar in history...and it is not just me saying that, it is everyone with an IQ above that of a tube of toothpaste who PAYS ATTENTION.
You're just talking about leftist intersectionality. Obama was a shitty president, white or black. Legal immigrants do come from more diverse countries. Illegal aliens do come from shithole countries.

I like how leftists like to say we need to let people come from wherever they want because they are in fear for their lives and want their kids to have a better future. Then you get all upset over saying they are shithole countries, the ones you say are terrorizing and killing their own people.

All you're showing is more lies from the left
 

llovejim

Current Champion
That's a lie. He specifically said he's anti-Trump
no, he didn't. i have already posted where this racist killer praised trump...here it is again-

The Australian-born suspect who shot dead dozens of Mulim worshippers in Christchurch, New Zealand, has published a manifesto citing US President Donald Trump and Anders Breivik, the Norwegian white supremacist who murdered 77 people in Norway in 2011.

The 74-page dossier by Brenton Tarrant, which has been described by Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison as a "work of hate", praised Trump as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose".

The dossier stated objections to immigration and multiculturalism, and decries the "decaying" culture of the white, European western world.

from the manifesto- some of it sounds like a trump speech to his goons at a pep rally when he talks about "invaders" at our borders...

Mass immigration and the higher fertility rates of the immigrants themselves are causing this increase in population.

We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history. Millions of people pouring across our borders, legally.Invited by the state and corporate entities to replace the White people who have failed to reproduce, failed to create the cheap labour, new consumers and tax base that the corporations and states need to thrive.

This is ethnic replacement.

This is cultural replacement.

This is racial replacement.

This is WHITE GENOCIDE.

What do you want? (he asked himself questions during this racist rant)

We must ensure the existence of our people, and a future for white children.

Why did you choose to use firearms?

I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Do you believe those you attacked were innocent?

They are no innocents in an invasion, all those who colonize other peoples lands share guilt

Was the attack “racist” in origin?

Fertility rates are innately tied to race, so yes. There was a racial component to the attack.

Was the attack “xenophobic” in orgin?

Fertility rates are cultural, there is no denying that, so there was a war of cultures being fought by the invaders, and my attack was a response to this. Though I hold no great fear or distrust of other peoples.

Was the attack “islamophobic” in origin?

Islamic nations in particular have high birth rates, regardless of race or ethnicity, and in this there was an anti-islamic motivation to the attacks, as well as a want for revenge against islam for the 1300 years of war and devastation that it has brought upon the people of the West and other peoples of the world.

Was the attack anti-immigration in origin?

Yes, beyond all doubt, anti-immigration, anti-ethnic replacement and anti-cultural replacement.

Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?

Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

Did/do you have ties to any other partisans/freedom fighters/ethno soldiers?

I support many of those that take a stand against ethnic and cultural genocide.Luca Traini, Anders Breivik, Dylan Roof, Anton Lundin Pettersson, Darren Osbourne etc.

But I have only had brief contact with Knight Justiciar Breivik, receiving a blessing for my mission after contacting his brother knights.

Were your beliefs influenced by any other attackers?

I have read the writings of Dylan Roof and many others, but only really took true inspiration from Knight Justiciar Breivik.

Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states?

Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time.

Children are always innocent, do you not think you are a monster for killing an innocent?

Children of invaders do not stay children, they become adults and reproduce, creating more invaders to replace your people.They grow up and vote against your peoples own wishes, for the interests of their own people and identity. They grow up and take the potential homes of your own people for themselves, they occupy positions of power, remove wealth and destroy social trust.

https://www.europeanfreedom.com/2019/03/16/the-great-replacement-the-manifesto-of-brenton-tarrant-the-new-zealand-mosque-shooter/
 

EatTheRich

President
On the reference in the quote, why exactly can good people not be on both sides of wanting to keep the civil war statues or wanting to remove them? What's wrong with what Trump said?
That’s not what the rally was about. It was a show of force by Klansmen, Nazis, and their allies.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
That’s not what the rally was about. It was a show of force by Klansmen, Nazis, and their allies.
as anyone who can read and does read any newspapers know, the rally was sponsored, the tiki torches provided, by well-known white nationalist, alt-right groups, including Richard Spencer and the National Front....i hate to point out the obvious, but the fact tiki-torches were used, as Hilter and the SS used in their early violent protests in Germany, was a pretty good clue this was a protest with a Nazi theme. along with the swastikas, the nazi saluting, and the goons chanting "Jews will not replace us" as they protest the removal from public ground, the publicly funded statue honoring a traitor to this country who fought to keep slavery legal in the South. You know, where the lady was ran over by one of these neo-nazis the next day. You know, when Trump 3 days after she was killed and all the tiki-torches had gone out, said "there were fine people on both sides."

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Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
You're just talking about leftist intersectionality. Obama was a shitty president, white or black. Legal immigrants do come from more diverse countries. Illegal aliens do come from shithole countries.

I like how leftists like to say we need to let people come from wherever they want because they are in fear for their lives and want their kids to have a better future. Then you get all upset over saying they are shithole countries, the ones you say are terrorizing and killing their own people.

All you're showing is more lies from the left

You are speaking WAY over his head here. Just saying.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
That's a lie. He specifically said he's anti-Trump
The shooter sounds like some in my party here !

“The shooter claims in the Q-and-A section to eschew political ideology, saying he does not support Donald Trump because of his support for Israel. The writer also complains that conservatives aren’t violent enough in support of their politics.”

One question asks, “Are you a Trump supporter?,” and answers, “You mean that Zionist, Jew-loving, anti-White, traitorous c********r? Don’t make me laugh.”

Another asks if the author is a “conservative?” He writes:

I am not a useless, spineless coward so no—I am not a conservative. Conservative is a misnomer. They conserve nothing. They’ll complain all they want but they won’t take up arms and threaten their government with death (the only thing that works). Ever heard about the Battle of Athens (1946)? Find your balls again you insufferable fa**ots. If you do not defend your rights you deserve none.

 
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llovejim

Current Champion
You are speaking WAY over his head here. Just saying.
but he is not speaking over your head, he is right there in the gutter with you- spewing lies about Obama "shitty" despite being ranked by scholars as one of the best 10 presidents in our history...and despite how spectacularly successful his presidency was, based not only on definable statistics of where we were when he assumed office to where we were when he left it in such great shape, to the fact that when Obama took office, our president and our country was held in such total disregard, if not hate, by most of our allies around the world. When he left, he had been named the most admired man in the world 8 times, his approval rating among our allies was around 80% and this country was once again respected and considered the moral driving force of the free world. here are some ACTUAL FACTS TO BACK THAT UP, NOT JUST SOME BIGOTED TRUMP STOOGE SPEWING CRAP HE VOMITED OUT OF HIS PIEHOLE WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE.

Trump again comes up short for Gallup's 'Most Admired' honor | MSNBC

www.msnbc.com/rachel.../trump-again-comes-short-gallups-most-admired-honor


(comes up short, eh? I guess it's true what they say about guys with tiny hands)

Dec 27, 2018 - Obama has now been voted the nation's most admired man 10 times, ...

Here are the top 10 Presidents of All Time by these experts (Trump is dead last)

(Clinton at 13)
10. LBJ
9. REAGAN
8 OBAMA
7 IKE
6 TRUMAN
5 JEFFERSON
4 TEDDY ROOSEVELT
3 FDR
2 WASHINGTON
1 LINCOLN....

https://www.businessinsider.com/greatest-us-presidents-ranked-by-political-scientists-2018-2#34-james-garfield-11

trump approval lower than obama world.jpg

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obama great record.jpg
 

llovejim

Current Champion
A socialist is complaining about how taxpayer money is spent? Classic.

You obviously don't live in the south. I am a northerner, but I spent a couple decades living here (North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, Florida). To say that southerners see civil war statues and think of slavery is just northern arrogance and bigotry.

Note I'm also agreeing that while I don't have a problem with the statues, I think good people can want them taken down too. Trump and I are both just more tolerant than you are
why should anybody be tolerant of public financed and maintained statues on public ground that honor traitors? do you think there should be any of Benedict Arnold? why is this a tough question?
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
You know, when Trump 3 days after she was killed and all the tiki-torches had gone out, said "there were fine people on both sides."
Trump said there were fine people in antifa. Sure he did, Speed Racer.

The sad part is you spin any quote and any reference against Trump, then after all that effort you cry that oh your God, it's so "sad" there is a racist in the white house. Lamest troll crap ever.

But yeah, Trump said there were "fine people" in antifa. What ridiculous lunacy
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
why should anybody be tolerant of public financed and maintained statues on public ground that honor traitors? do you think there should be any of Benedict Arnold? why is this a tough question?
All you're showing is your own bigotry. You hate Trump, you hate Southerners and you're bitter and angry. Got it, Speed Racer
 

EatTheRich

President
Trump said there were fine people in antifa. Sure he did, Speed Racer.

The sad part is you spin any quote and any reference against Trump, then after all that effort you cry that oh your God, it's so "sad" there is a racist in the white house. Lamest troll crap ever.

But yeah, Trump said there were "fine people" in antifa. What ridiculous lunacy
Not everyone on the anti-Nazi side was “Antifa” in the sense of organized militant anti-fascism.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
but he is not speaking over your head, he is right there in the gutter with you- spewing lies about Obama "shitty" despite being ranked by scholars as one of the best 10 presidents in our history...and despite how spectacularly successful his presidency was, based not only on definable statistics of where we were when he assumed office to where we were when he left it in such great shape, to the fact that when Obama took office, our president and our country was held in such total disregard, if not hate, by most of our allies around the world. When he left, he had been named the most admired man in the world 8 times, his approval rating among our allies was around 80% and this country was once again respected and considered the moral driving force of the free world. here are some ACTUAL FACTS TO BACK THAT UP, NOT JUST SOME BIGOTED TRUMP STOOGE SPEWING CRAP HE VOMITED OUT OF HIS PIEHOLE WITHOUT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE.

Trump again comes up short for Gallup's 'Most Admired' honor | MSNBC

www.msnbc.com/rachel.../trump-again-comes-short-gallups-most-admired-honor


(comes up short, eh? I guess it's true what they say about guys with tiny hands)

Dec 27, 2018 - Obama has now been voted the nation's most admired man 10 times, ...

Here are the top 10 Presidents of All Time by these experts (Trump is dead last)

(Clinton at 13)
10. LBJ
9. REAGAN
8 OBAMA
7 IKE
6 TRUMAN
5 JEFFERSON
4 TEDDY ROOSEVELT
3 FDR
2 WASHINGTON
1 LINCOLN....

https://www.businessinsider.com/greatest-us-presidents-ranked-by-political-scientists-2018-2#34-james-garfield-11

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kaz

Small l libertarian
Not everyone on the anti-Nazi side was “Antifa” in the sense of organized militant anti-fascism.
I never said "everyone" was an antifa fascist and don't see the relevance of the comment. There were as many anti-Nazi leftist fascists as there were Nazi leftist fascists. The rest is you trying to obfuscate the issue
 

EatTheRich

President
I never said "everyone" was an antifa fascist and don't see the relevance of the comment. There were as many anti-Nazi leftist fascists as there were Nazi leftist fascists. The rest is you trying to obfuscate the issue
So ... none?

The point is that Trump said there were fine people on the pro-Nazi side and on the anti-Nazi side. The “fine people” on the anti-Nazi side he was talking about weren’t Antifa.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
So ... none?

The point is that Trump said there were fine people on the pro-Nazi side and on the anti-Nazi side. The “fine people” on the anti-Nazi side he was talking about weren’t Antifa.
That's a lie. He said there were good people on the pro and anti statue side. You just lie and lie and lie. No wonder you love the Democrat party and fake news
 

EatTheRich

President
That's a lie. He said there were good people on the pro and anti statue side. You just lie and lie and lie. No wonder you love the Democrat party and fake news
He was specifically talking about the pro-Nazi marchers in Charlottesville.

I don’t love the “Democrat party and fake news.”

Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
 
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