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Barbella

Barbella

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As everyone who has been here a while knows, I believe (nah, I KNOW) that 99.9% of politicians are crooked, narcissistic, selfish and self centered [Unwelcome language removed] who don't care about anything or anyone other than themselves. Sure I attack democrats, and especially liberals... because, first of all, I disagree with many of their opinions and views, but mainly because of their insistence on worshipping their government and their "leaders" to the point of bile-inducing nausea.

The point? We, The People, will continue to lose as long as we keep fighting each other, instead of fighting those who foster our division for their own gains. Do you not see how the animosity they encourage benefits THEM, and hurts US? Do you not understand how the political "elite" operate, and how cynically self-serving the whole lot of them is?

American citizens, patriots, should be able to agree to disagree, and try to work out a compromise for the good of the Nation and its people, on most issues. As long as BOTH sides are willing, that is. Life is not a "my-way-or-the-highway" path... no one can "have it all".

This, of course, is a "test". Your responses will immediately prove your patriotism, as well as your intelligence and common sense.,.

One, two, three..... GO!

:)

PS... I've actually tried this a couple of times in the past, only to get shot down every time... I don't know why I keep doing this. However... it is my firm belief that We, The People, need to "stick together" in order to survive with some semblance of dignity and freedom. Unfortunately, we certainly don't seem to be doing that....
 
Barbella said:
As everyone who has been here a while knows, I believe (nah, I KNOW) that 99.9% of politicians are crooked, narcissistic, selfish and self centered [Unwelcome language removed] who don't care about anything or anyone other than themselves. Sure I attack democrats, and especially liberals... because, first of all, I disagree with many of their opinions and views, but mainly because of their insistence on worshipping their government and their "leaders" to the point of bile-inducing nausea.

The point? We, The People, will continue to lose as long as we keep fighting each other, instead of fighting those who foster our division for their own gains. Do you not see how the animosity they encourage benefits THEM, and hurts US? Do you not understand how the political "elite" operate, and how cynically self-serving the whole lot of them is?

American citizens, patriots, should be able to agree to disagree, and try to work out a compromise for the good of the Nation and its people, on most issues. As long as BOTH sides are willing, that is. Life is not a "my-way-or-the-highway" path... no one can "have it all".

This, of course, is a "test". Your responses will immediately prove your patriotism, as well as your intelligence and common sense.,.

One, two, three..... GO!

:)

PS... I've actually tried this a couple of times in the past, only to get shot down every time... I don't know why I keep doing this. However... it is my firm belief that We, The People, need to "stick together" in order to survive with some semblance of dignity and freedom. Unfortunately, we certainly don't seem to be doing that....
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I don't need to have it all. I just want things to go better for people. Not just groups of people at the expense of other people, but everyone. To my thinking, that's what the general welfare means. Not one group over another, but the well-being of everyone.
 
Barbella said:
As everyone who has been here a while knows, I believe (nah, I KNOW) that 99.9% of politicians are crooked, narcissistic, selfish and self centered [Unwelcome language removed] who don't care about anything or anyone other than themselves. Sure I attack democrats, and especially liberals... because, first of all, I disagree with many of their opinions and views, but mainly because of their insistence on worshipping their government and their "leaders" to the point of bile-inducing nausea.

The point? We, The People, will continue to lose as long as we keep fighting each other, instead of fighting those who foster our division for their own gains. Do you not see how the animosity they encourage benefits THEM, and hurts US? Do you not understand how the political "elite" operate, and how cynically self-serving the whole lot of them is?

American citizens, patriots, should be able to agree to disagree, and try to work out a compromise for the good of the Nation and its people, on most issues. As long as BOTH sides are willing, that is. Life is not a "my-way-or-the-highway" path... no one can "have it all".

This, of course, is a "test". Your responses will immediately prove your patriotism, as well as your intelligence and common sense.,.

One, two, three..... GO!

:)

PS... I've actually tried this a couple of times in the past, only to get shot down every time... I don't know why I keep doing this. However... it is my firm belief that We, The People, need to "stick together" in order to survive with some semblance of dignity and freedom. Unfortunately, we certainly don't seem to be doing that....
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We did long-long back but politicians learned the more freebies they could offer they could create the "Two Americas" ......IMO it is now to late to even think what you purpose to be possible.
These frays all but prove that to be a fact...............always worth a try.
 
Colorforms said:
I don't need to have it all. I just want things to go better for people. Not just groups of people at the expense of other people, but everyone. To my thinking, that's what the general welfare means. Not one group over another, but the well-being of everyone.
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So, like any other normal, sane person, you're willing to compromise on some issues. I knew that.... :)
 
Our government has not shown any sign of enacting any laws or getting rid of any "bad" laws that would help the "general public." Instead it has written law after law to diminish the prosperity of the middle class for the sake of some. My only hope is that when and if the majority of the middle class comes to their senses we will elect people that will do something about the rights of ALL Americans. I think we have to hit bottom first, and the current administration is working on it every day.
 
Charcat said:
Our government has not shown any sign of enacting any laws or getting rid of any "bad" laws that would help the "general public." Instead it has written law after law to diminish the prosperity of the middle class for the sake of some. My only hope is that when and if the majority of the middle class comes to their senses we will elect people that will do something about the rights of ALL Americans. I think we have to hit bottom first, and the current administration is working on it every day.
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Well said, char...
 
Those we have elected (not all of them, but most of them) are there to feather their nests and to create discord in us so that we won't notice what they are doing.

I am willing to and have made compromises. I am conservative in my life, but I realize (and have posted this many times) that our government needs to be run from the center. We, the people need to come together, find common ground and demand that those we elect do their jobs.
 
Barbella said:
Well said, char...
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That sounded pretty divisive to me. Look conservatives have been compromise with so much that the Democrats of today are the Republicans of 40 years ago. This current administration is an example of that. Yet approve of a message that says they are trying to destroy the country. How do you compromise with a mindset like this ?
 
I think we need to do a better job of vetting anyone we elect. I'm not talking about the personal crap--like who had an affair, got divorced, etc.--I'm talking about ethics in business and politics. Or is it "after" they're elected that they become frauds and start becoming increasingly wealthy? That is no accident. It would be so interesting to find out who is really offering bribes and pay-offs to them all, but it is amazing how they get so rich after being elected. There is no longer any such thing as honor in politics, and I'm not optimistic about things ever getting any better without a complete change in how government works.
 
Spamature said:
That sounded pretty divisive to me. Look conservatives have been compromise with so much that the Democrats of today are the Republicans of 40 years ago. This current administration is an example of that. Yet approve of a message that says they are trying to destroy the country. How do you compromise with a mindset like this ?
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WE THE PEOPLE HAVE WAKEN UP...........

http://theblacksphere.net/maher-leaks-left-secret

ven the college kids of the failures and lies of 'O' and company.
 
Spamature said:
That sounded pretty divisive to me. Look conservatives have been compromise with so much that the Democrats of today are the Republicans of 40 years ago. This current administration is an example of that. Yet approve of a message that says they are trying to destroy the country. How do you compromise with a mindset like this ?
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You've got that backwards....the republicans of today are the democrats of 40 years ago. And the democrats are now socialists.
 
Charcat said:
You've got that backwards....the republicans of today are the democrats of 40 years ago. And the democrats are now socialists.
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Really ? In what way are the Republicans the Democrats of 40 yrs ago and the Democrats now socialist. Because we can go back and look at what each party was saying at that time and find out who is right. I will tell you right now the Republican platforms of the late 60's and early 70's sound a helluva lot more like the Dems today than they do today's Republicans. I will bet you on that !
 
Dawg said:
so the college students were not what REAL? Are you a liberal RACIST?
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Now I will grant you that nobody who could run today thinks they could beat Hillary. So you won't find prominent Dems waiting with bated breath to run against her.

But the rest is not Maher. It's made up BS. Deficits are down DRASTICALLY and economy has markedly improved since this president took office I don't know what he means by the foreign policy being a joke. Because our foreign policy before him was to get bogged down in wars of choice. He's ending those wars on his watch. He backed down a dictator with WMD without invading.

Republicans only care about Benghazi and the other fake scandals because they have accomplished nothing and have egg on their face over how embarrassingly wrong they were about the Dems plan for HCR.
 
Spamature said:
Really ? In what way are the Republicans the Democrats of 40 yrs ago and the Democrats now socialist. Because we can go back and look at what each party was saying at that time and find out who is right. I will tell you right now the Republican platforms of the late 60's and early 70's sound a helluva lot more like the Dems today than they do today's Republicans. I will bet you on that !
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Southern democrats became republicans back in the 60s.....maybe that helps understand the nature of the party today....
 
Spamature said:
Now I will grant you that nobody who could run today thinks they could beat Hillary. So you won't find prominent Dems waiting with bated breath to run against her.

But the rest is not Maher. It's made up BS. Deficits are down DRASTICALLY and economy has markedly improved since this president took office I don't know what he means by the foreign policy being a joke. Because our foreign policy before him was to get bogged down in wars of choice. He's ending those wars on his watch. He backed down a dictator with WMD without invading.

Republicans only care about Benghazi and the other fake scandals because they have accomplished nothing and have egg on their face over how embarrassingly wrong they were about the Dems plan for HCR.
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that's what Hillary thought in 08
94,000,000+ out of work, you call that good
'O' did NOT end Iraq....Bush signed the end before he left office
'O' surged Afghan TWICE, doubled troop deaths, FYI-Afghan is not ended
'O' backed no one down and Syria bigger mess than before, still has chemicals and WMDs.............
"fate" is liberalism
 
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