Without help from the US the UK would have been starved into submission. Hitler would not have needed to invade.
About them doggone drones.
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Without help from the US the UK would have been starved into submission. Hitler would not have needed to invade.
The Committee notes with concern the restrictive interpretation made by the State party of its obligations under the Covenant, as a result in particular of (a) its position that the Covenant does not apply with respect to individuals under its jurisdiction but outside its territory, nor in time of war
The position of the US is that the covenant doesn't apply in wartime....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Covenant_on_Civil_and_Political_Rights
It is completely idiotic to reward people like Awalaki by saying if they are in areas where there is no law enforcement, they can operate with impunity.
Zam-Zam
Senator
Off-topic:
When the U.S. flyboys were over in the UK during WWII, their legendary success with the English women was no small irritation to the Brits in uniform. The common complaint to the Yanks was that they were "Over-paid, over-sexed, and over here!". The typical American reply to their hosts was that the Brits wee "Under-paid, under-sexed, and under Eisenhower."
I imagine that went over real well.
Based on your logic, if we kill soldiers on the battlefield, it is murder. Make no mistake. Yemen is a battlefield and has been our ally. Al Qaeda is making war on them. If it was legal to kill Yamamoto by ambushing his transport aircraft many miles away from the battlefield then killing Awalaki was certainly legal.
If someone is within the territory of the United States then due process of law is mandated unless the danger to law enforcement officers is too great. If someone is using deadly force to resist arrest then they'd certainly be killed. In Yemen there were three choices....let Awalaki continue to direct military action against the United States, hope that Yemeni law enforcement or military forces could eventually capture or kill him or kill him ourselves....can you think of any other options?
Awalaki was on the list of targets for over a year...he knew it. His father filed a lawsuit to get his name removed. Did Awalaki offer to surrender? Did he issue a statement explaining that he wasn't at war with the US?
Your idealism is commendable but unrealistic. Would you suggest that we should not have killed members of the Japanese or German military without legal action first?
Yeah, clearly we were picking on a 90lb weakling when we went to war against Germany, Japan, Italy and their allies...and what shining light of civilization are you from Gabe?
His idealism is stupid, just like that of most demented Liberals. Rather than give [Unwelcome language removed] like Awalaki special consideration because they went through the process to become an American citizen, I would turn them into stew-meat first before any other enemies.
And lose more REAL Americans trying to capture them. No thanks, I say set the bastards on fire from afar.
You are woeefully ignorant of history.
Queen Titania
Senator
We were healthier after the War than we had been before it
http://www.cooksinfo.com/british-wartime-food
At the point in the War, when the US was asked in, Churchill had a chance of making terms for peace with Germany. We may never know why an old War Horse did not choose Peace, was it Pride ? Money ? Or just the fun of the chase ? We can only surmise, but he lost the British Empire in choosing War over Peace and turn loose on the World a devastation which is an unquenchable monster, the machine which is 'insidious' cruel and brutal The Corperate American Empire. And also left the brutalities of what has been falsely named 'Communism' in the game un challenged, its people hopelessly cut off. Splitting the World in two in an imagined 'Cold War' giving the bastard Arms Barons unlimited Power to destroy and carry on destroying our beauty, forever and ever Amen. The Devil rules ..................... it has swallowed Americas soul completely. And you love it ?
Gramps fought for your right to be a piece of shit.
