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middleview

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So the anti-Obama crowd are jumping on the Putin cheering squad and taking RT News as gospel...They are claiming that the US has not been attacking ISIS and that their week of strikes by 20 or so planes have ISIS on the run....Except that it was coalition strikes yesterday that killed Al-Baghdadi...the leader of ISIL...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ic-state-leaders-convoy/ar-AAfkRTg?li=AAa0dzB

Any wingers here willing to admit they were wrong?
 
What would these "wingers" be wrong about, given the link you posted?
 
middleview said:
How about the ones claiming we were supporting ISIS? Maybe the ones claiming that we really weren't conducting airstrikes?
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I think an air strike proves an air strike. The fact remains ISIS has grown in strength quite a bit while Obama has been in office. Opinions vary as to why. Personally, I think he's got a soft spot in his heart for Muslim extremists and hoped ISIS would overthrow Assad. It's that same old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mistake.
 
middleview said:
So the anti-Obama crowd are jumping on the Putin cheering squad and taking RT News as gospel...They are claiming that the US has not been attacking ISIS and that their week of strikes by 20 or so planes have ISIS on the run....Except that it was coalition strikes yesterday that killed Al-Baghdadi...the leader of ISIL...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ic-state-leaders-convoy/ar-AAfkRTg?li=AAa0dzB

Any wingers here willing to admit they were wrong?
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Is there any confirmation Baghdadi is dead?
"Iran's Fars news agency said several Arabic-language media outlets in Iraq have quoted 'informed military sources' as saying al-Baghdadi had been killed and that no one in the convoy survived the attack. Reuters, however, cited hospital officials and Karabla residents as saying al-Baghdadi was not among the dead."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ic-state-leaders-convoy/ar-AAfkRTg?li=AAa0dzB
 
georgephillip said:
Is there any confirmation Baghdadi is dead?
"Iran's Fars news agency said several Arabic-language media outlets in Iraq have quoted 'informed military sources' as saying al-Baghdadi had been killed and that no one in the convoy survived the attack. Reuters, however, cited hospital officials and Karabla residents as saying al-Baghdadi was not among the dead."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraq-says-it-bombed-islamic-state-leaders-convoy/ar-AAfkRTg?li=AAa0dzB
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A guy can hope...but the fact is that there were 24 strikes in one day. So much for the right wingers attempt to say there have been no strikes.
 
The Thinker said:
I think an air strike proves an air strike. The fact remains ISIS has grown in strength quite a bit while Obama has been in office. Opinions vary as to why. Personally, I think he's got a soft spot in his heart for Muslim extremists and hoped ISIS would overthrow Assad. It's that same old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mistake.
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So even with Bin Laden killed in a raid ordered by Obama and Baghdadi killed by forces sent to help Iraq...you still want to pretend that Obama has a soft spot in his heart for them? That is a lot of hate for Obama for you to haul around.

I guess you slept through the battle of Kobane.
 
middleview said:
A guy can hope...but the fact is that there were 24 strikes in one day. So much for the right wingers attempt to say there have been no strikes.
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Ah, so there are people who say there just have been NO air strikes? My position has been to question the efficacy of the attacks on ISIS, not necessarily to deny they ever happened. However, literally nothing surprises me anymore. :(
 
middleview said:
So even with Bin Laden killed in a raid ordered by Obama and Baghdadi killed by forces sent to help Iraq...you still want to pretend that Obama has a soft spot in his heart for them? That is a lot of hate for Obama for you to haul around.

I guess you slept through the battle of Kobane.
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No pretending needed. Of course he had to get Osama. That was political gold. But clearly he has been soft on various factions of Muslim savages.
 
The Thinker said:
No pretending needed. Of course he had to get Osama. That was political gold. But clearly he has been soft on various factions of Muslim savages.
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By the way....have you heard of any of the predator drone strikes that seem to be responsible for a serious shortage of Al Qaeda leaders? Obama ordered those.
 
middleview said:
Really? So bombing the shit out of ISIS at Kobane was something that never happened?
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Wow, who said that? And what exactly does "bombing the shit out of" mean? But yes, I slept through that one, they're a good 8 hours ahead of us. ;)
 
The Thinker said:
Wow, who said that? And what exactly does "bombing the shit out of" mean? But yes, I slept through that one, they're a good 8 hours ahead of us. ;)
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How do you reconcile your comment that Obama has been soft on the terrorists with the fact that we have provided significant air support to the Kurds in Kobane....and that is not the only decisive support we have provided.
 
The Thinker said:
I think an air strike proves an air strike. The fact remains ISIS has grown in strength quite a bit while Obama has been in office. Opinions vary as to why. Personally, I think he's got a soft spot in his heart for Muslim extremists and hoped ISIS would overthrow Assad. It's that same old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mistake.
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LBJ told Americans he was bombing NV's while Bombing empty mountains and Θ has been doing the same against ISIS, airstrikes in open deserts...............when mid converted from republican to democrat in 2000, he as well converted his brain to shitt and refuses to admit he voted for a failure---------TWICE.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...-that-obama-knowingly-armed-isis-2735122.html

let him ignore that
 
The Thinker said:
No pretending needed. Of course he had to get Osama. That was political gold. But clearly he has been soft on various factions of Muslim savages.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Obama_and_Biden_await_updates_on_bin_Laden.jpg

First off, it looks like he's sitting on an overturned 5 gallon bucket. Secondly, he looks positively grim. And thirdly, there's at least some indication he had to be forced into authorizing the kill:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-three-times-valerie-jarrett/

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/03/leon-panetta-not-obama-issued-order-to-kill-bin-laden/

http://nypost.com/2012/08/21/hill-swayed-o-to-kill-osama/
 
middleview said:
So the anti-Obama crowd are jumping on the Putin cheering squad and taking RT News as gospel...They are claiming that the US has not been attacking ISIS and that their week of strikes by 20 or so planes have ISIS on the run....Except that it was coalition strikes yesterday that killed Al-Baghdadi...the leader of ISIL...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ic-state-leaders-convoy/ar-AAfkRTg?li=AAa0dzB

Any wingers here willing to admit they were wrong?
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Lol
 
Lukey said:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Obama_and_Biden_await_updates_on_bin_Laden.jpg

First off, it looks like he's sitting on an overturned 5 gallon bucket. Secondly, he looks positively grim. And thirdly, there's at least some indication he had to be forced into authorizing the kill:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-three-times-valerie-jarrett/

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/03/leon-panetta-not-obama-issued-order-to-kill-bin-laden/

http://nypost.com/2012/08/21/hill-swayed-o-to-kill-osama/
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Madness ---- At least the Empires of old didn't lie to their people about what they were up too -------------
 
The Thinker said:
No pretending needed. Of course he had to get Osama. That was political gold. But clearly he has been soft on various factions of Muslim savages.
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Wtf is this with you and Muslim savages? Muslims are not savages, Islam is the Religion of Peace, Jihad is in Islam a word used for the battle field only, Westernized Wahhabism misuses it. Wahhabis are NOT Islamic according to all of the Muslim World but Saudi whose religion and soldiers it is.

I will explain one more time.

The Wahhabis and Sauds are joined by blood, in a marriage early in Saudis History. The Wahhabis put the Sauds on the Throne, then turned on them, the Sauds massacred the Wahhabis in Mecca but kept their religion as a fanatical tool to rule and feed the peoples as an alternative to revolt, it later was used to combat the danger of Communism ( look into their schools all over the Islamic World and how they are funded) - when Roosevelt made the deal for exclusive rights to Saudi Oil ( birth of the Petro Dollar) it was on condition that America would not only leave Saudis religion alone but protect it --- in fact it has encouraged it for it makes a powerful proxi Army in Afghanistan, Chechnya, the ME and Africa.

ISIL = Wahhabi = US mercenary Army.

Wahhabi is NOT Islam it is more akin to the beliefs of the followers of the Talmud............ but that is another half told tale - told by a Saudi Scholar who languishes in a Saudi jail.
 
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