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KnotaFrayed

KnotaFrayed

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Everyone's got an opinion!!!!!

Highly paid and in front of a camera or posting to PJ's.

What about facts and truth? Do they matter to anyone or is all about just how someone looked or how salesman like they were even if all they said was either highly disputable or has no basis in truth.
 
Sad isn't it? Perception is reality. As we all know, the Romney folks said they didn't care about fact-checkers.

They may actually have something there, as the only people who can be swayed at this point are very low info voters.

Maybe Obama should take that reality to heart and come out not only swinging next week.. but lying?
 
Bo-4 said:
Maybe Obama should take that reality to heart and come out not only swinging next week.. but lying?
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Obama would fall right into their trap if he tried to beat them at their own game. There's no way that he can best Romney/Ryan when it comes to bald-faced lying. They have too much experience. ;)
 
A survey was taken about the early voters.They are high information voters who have already made up their minds.
Gee,I did not know I was so smart:eek:)

BTW,they are over whelmingly Democrats!
 
Oddly PJ like other pockets of America is filled with middleclass and poor people. They are the exact ones one would not expect to be supporting someone who will impact them in the negative ways Mitt would. THEY are the ones who will rely on Social Security, Medicare, private insurance costs going higher than those they complain about, and all aspects of their life. It has always been odd to me when anyone allows politics to actually impact their own pocketbook in such huge ways. And that does not even count women and choice.
 
Basis in historical fact is the indicator for me as to what to expect from the parties in the future.

If pugs could point to success when they have held the reins, I'd be more inclined to listen to them. They opt for pretending that history never happened and that the same old dogma is what we should "believe in". Just focus on that pristine future where they can make things up about the consequences of their policies. Never look back at what they have wrought. Bottomless debt, endless war and a relentless assault on the middle class to perpetuate the dominance of the 1%.
 
That is the great mystery. They are not well off and they vote on concepts that work against their own life. Wishing they will be wealthy one day is not the same as being wealthy so they vote to protect what they don't have lowering the chances they will ever be wealthy.
 
Minotaur said:
That is the great mystery. They are not well off and they vote on concepts that work against their own life. Wishing they will be wealthy one day is not the same as being wealthy so they vote to protect what they don't have lowering the chances they will ever be wealthy.
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Well stated.. Min.. Hard to understand why they are so easily misled by smooth, fast talking politicians, who could care less about their well being and circumstances.

It boggles my wee mind! :D
 
Minotaur said:
Oddly PJ like other pockets of America is filled with middleclass and poor people. They are the exact ones one would not expect to be supporting someone who will impact them in the negative ways Mitt would. THEY are the ones who will rely on Social Security, Medicare, private insurance costs going higher than those they complain about, and all aspects of their life. It has always been odd to me when anyone allows politics to actually impact their own pocketbook in such huge ways. And that does not even count women and choice.
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Low information voters ,Min.I am constantly surprised at the lack of knowing even the most common day to day information that is all around us.

Reminds me of a horse with blinders on,tunnel vision. Those are the ones so easily led.

Like the poster who said he knew what happened in the Stevens and ex Navy Seals death. Like me,none of us know exactly what happened. We only know what the latest breathless story is. I include the left leaning stories too. They are nothing but opinions.

None are so blind as those who cannot see.I know that is old,but it fits so many. I am quite sure I am in that. The reason I spend so much time searching for the truth among all the chaff.
 
KnotaFrayed said:
Everyone's got an opinion!!!!!

Highly paid and in front of a camera or posting to PJ's.

What about facts and truth? Do they matter to anyone or is all about just how someone looked or how salesman like they were even if all they said was either highly disputable or has no basis in truth.
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Sad reflection on all of us.. Smart packaging usually sells the product.. not always the best buy though.. :D

After trying that certain product and learning it doesn't live up to one's expectations.. most of us refuse to buy that brand again..
 
Once again, although redundant, the following I believe offers some indication of what may be going on, at least in part.
Unlike opinion polls, those polled for the study were asked specific knowledge questions and the following offers an indication of how they did based on their declared sources of "information"


http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/the_most_misinformed_news_cons033634.php





http://www.mediaite.com/online/yet-...s-worst-informed-npr-listeners-best-informed/

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/outfox/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/


More interesting would be those who continue to stick with their declared source even after it has been shown to present them as being even less informed than people who declared no source of news suggesting they may even be misinformed.
 
Rmoney and Lyin should be selling crap on TV, like Vince Shlomi...

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KnotaFrayed said:
Once again, although redundant, the following I believe offers some indication of what may be going on, at least in part.
Unlike opinion polls, those polled for the study were asked specific knowledge questions and the following offers an indication of how they did based on their declared sources of "information"


http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8148.pdf
http://www.comm.ohio-state.edu/kgarrett/MediaMosqueRumors.pdf
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/the_most_misinformed_news_cons033634.php





http://www.mediaite.com/online/yet-...s-worst-informed-npr-listeners-best-informed/

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/outfox/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/final.pdf
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/


More interesting would be those who continue to stick with their declared source even after it has been shown to present them as being even less informed than people who declared no source of news suggesting they may even be misinformed.
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http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/final.pdf

That sure proves the conclusion I reached long ago. Those who watch Jon Stewart know more.That is pathetic,but we all know who led us into all these senseless wars,did nothing to prevent the Wall Street catastrophe. Gave us George Bush by concentrating on Gores clothing and is now trying to lead us to a Romney victory which would be worse than Bush. With the same people all around him. And the lunatic Rand follower,Ryan.
 
Sales experts know how to stock shelves to get the most attention; and example being put brightly colored products that temp kids on the lower shelf near eye level for them. Politics is a lot like that. If you follow the money it's being spent to retain edges that paid off last election especially in swing states. Colorado is a perfect example. It is, according to the latest polls, a dead heat today. In the case of Colorado more money was spent there a week ago than in any other area to influence voters. Colorado is customarily a red state. Has been for ages. But there is also a history of maverick defection if things don't quite measure up to their expectations so a 50/50 tie is actually a boost for Obama at this stage of the gamee. For my vote to really count Obama must carry Colorado. My phone has rung off the wall for two weeks thanks to the GOP machine and their robocalls which have been pouring in six or seven times each day. They are running scared. But it might pay off in such a toss-up state.

Gramps




Addy said:
Sad reflection on all of us.. Smart packaging usually sells the product.. not always the best buy though.. :D

After trying that certain product and learning it doesn't live up to one's expectations.. most of us refuse to buy that brand again..
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That may be Friday,but I see them as they cannot, because I think they honestly believe what is not true. It is not willfull,they honestly cannot see anything they do not want to,but I guess you could use either word.
 
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