Ohio botched execution

[Caroljo]

renee projects her own thoughts/words into someone elses statement as though her words were the original ones...

its quite fascinating to watch the extent she goes to change someones meaning/post...

Isn't THAT the truth! I can't even count how many times she's done that to me and others! She doesn't see how foolish she looks.

 

[Zoar]

Maybe some of the victims families wouldn't WANT the murderer to work for them! Maybe they would want nothing to do with them! I wouldn't! If someone did this to my daughter and grandchild, I wouldn't want that person to live either. Just because YOU think that is what should happen, that doesn't mean everyone thinks that. I would like to know the guy suffered as much as my daughter and grandchild did.

Carol--- the dude ASKED ME! I answered him. You then exclaim i am trying to tell people how to live, when I was simply answering his question. Chill the F out.

 

[Dawg]

renee projects her own thoughts/words into someone elses statement as though her words were the original ones...

its quite fascinating to watch the extent she goes to change someones meaning/post...

maybe she's reppie's sister/wife/brother
reppie & renee
2 peas in a pod

 

[Dawg]

Maybe some of the victims families wouldn't WANT the murderer to work for them! Maybe they would want nothing to do with them! I wouldn't! If someone did this to my daughter and grandchild, I wouldn't want that person to live either. Just because YOU think that is what should happen, that doesn't mean everyone thinks that. I would like to know the guy suffered as much as my daughter and grandchild did.

what's the sob going to make working in prison...dollar a day.......$30 month......$360 year......what value is Boar putting on the wife/mother that the sob raped/murdered.....not much evidently☻

 

[JuliefromOhio]

I know that.....you just don't see how much your presidents kicks the constitution under the rug when it doesn't suit him. But then again, you never see anything he does wrong. It's only ok when it's a liberal that is getting what they want......

you admitted earlier in this thread that you know jackshit about the Constitution, yet you then claim that our president defies the Constitution. and you don't even have a clue how that makes no sense.

 

[Barbella]

you admitted earlier in this thread that you know jackshit about the Constitution, yet you then claim that our president defies the Constitution. and you don't even have a clue how that makes no sense.

You're the one who doesn't know jackshit....

President Obama’s top 10 constitutional violations of 2013.

1. Delay of Obamacare’s out-of-pocket caps. The Labor Department announced in February that it was delaying for a year the part of the healthcare law that limits how much people have to spend on their own insurance. This may have been sensible — insurers and employers need time to comply with rapidly changing regulations — but changing the law requires actual legislation.

2. Delay of Obamacare’s employer mandate. The administration announced via blogpost on the eve of the July 4 holiday that it was delaying the requirement that employers of at least 50 people provide complying insurance or pay a fine. This time it did cite statutory authority, but the cited provisions allow the delay of certain reporting requirements, not of the mandate itself.

3. Delay of Obamacare’s insurance requirements. The famous pledge that “if you like your plan, you can keep it” backfired when insurance companies started cancelling millions of plans that didn’t comply with Obamacare’s requirements. President Obama called a press conference last month to proclaim that people could continue buying non-complying plans in 2014 — despite Obamacare’s explicit language to the contrary. He then refused to consider a House-passed bill that would’ve made this action legal.

4. Exemption of Congress from Obamacare. A little-known part of Obamacare requires Congressmen and their staff to get insurance through the new healthcare exchanges, rather than a taxpayer-funded program. In the quiet of August, President Obama directed the Office of Personnel Management to interpret the law to maintain the generous congressional benefits.

5. Expansion of the employer mandate penalty through IRS regulation. Obamacare grants tax credits to people whose employers don’t provide coverage if they buy a plan “through an Exchange established by the State” — and then fines employers for each employee receiving such a subsidy. No tax credits are authorized for residents of states where the exchanges are established by the federal government, as an incentive for states to create exchanges themselves. Because so few (16) states did, however, the IRS issued a rule ignoring that plain text and allowed subsidies (and commensurate fines) for plans coming from “a State Exchange, regional Exchange, subsidiary Exchange, and federally-facilitated Exchange.”

6. Political profiling by the IRS. After seeing a rise in the number of applications for tax-exempt status, the IRS in 2010 compiled a “be on the lookout” (“BOLO”) list to identify organizations engaged in political activities. The list included words such as “Tea Party,” “Patriots,” and “Israel”; subjects such as government spending, debt, or taxes; and activities such as criticizing the government, educating about the Constitution, or challenging Obamacare. The targeting continued through May of this year.

7. Outlandish Supreme Court arguments. Between January 2012 and June 2013, the Supreme Court unanimously rejected the Justice Department’s extreme positions 9 times. The cases ranged from criminal procedure to property rights, religious liberty to immigration, securities regulation to tax law. They had nothing in common other than the government’s view that federal power is virtually unlimited. As a comparison, in the entire Bush and Clinton presidencies, the government suffered 15 and 23 unanimous rulings, respectively.

8. Recess appointments. Last year, President Obama appointed three members of the National Labor Relations Board, as well as the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, during what he considered to be a Senate recess. But the Senate was still holding “pro forma” sessions every three days — a technique developed by Sen. Harry Reid to thwart Bush recess appointments. (Meanwhile, the Dodd-Frank Act, which created the CFPB, provides that authority remains with the Treasury Secretary until a director is “confirmed by the Senate.”) In January, the D.C. Circuit held the NLRB appointments to be unconstitutional, which ruling White House spokesman Jay Carney said only applied to “one court, one case, one company.”

9. Assault on free speech and due process on college campuses. Responding to complaints about the University of Montana’s handling of sexual assault claims, the Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights, in conjunction with the Justice Department, sent the university a letter intended as a national “blueprint” for tackling sexual harassment. The letter urges a crackdown on “unwelcome” speech and requires complaints to be heard in quasi-judicial procedures that deny legal representation, encourage punishment before trial, and convict based on a mere “more likely than not” standard.

10. Mini-DREAM Act. Congress has shamelessly failed to pass any sort of immigration reform, including for the most sympathetic victims of the current non-system, young people who were brought into the country illegally as children. Nonetheless, President Obama, contradicting his own previous statements claiming to lack authority, directed the Department of Homeland Security to issue work and residence permits to the so-called Dreamers. The executive branch undoubtedly has discretion regarding enforcement priorities, but granting de facto green cards goes beyond a decision to defer deportation in certain cases.

http://bossierpress.com/2014/01/01/the-not-top-10-obamas-constitutional-violations/

 

[JuliefromOhio]

You're the one who doesn't know jackshit....

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you're as damn dumb as CarolClueless. your link lists actions that are legally acceptable. I mean, how many times have we told you confreaks that flexibility is written into laws.....so changes can be made in implementation as needed.

 

[Dawg]

OK, after serious thought of how to correct the so-called botched execution, I have the solution:

prop the rapist/murderer up against a car and have 'O' send one of his Drones and blow the sob away and everything will be final...........over..fixed--------------->/

 

[Caroljo]

you admitted earlier in this thread that you know jackshit about the Constitution, yet you then claim that our president defies the Constitution. and you don't even have a clue how that makes no sense.

No..this is what I said:

Better to be ignorant than to say you know the Constitution like the back of your hand and yet scrap the parts you don't agree with.

You had called Charcat ignorant of it...this was my reply. I never said I was....and you know it. Stop lying.

 

[Renee]

So you're okay with my killing someone else, just not you. Typical liberal.

I'm not ok with killing anyone..especially not me!

 

[Renee]

I know that.....you just don't see how much your presidents kicks the constitution under the rug when it doesn't suit him. But then again, you never see anything he does wrong. It's only ok when it's a liberal that is getting what they want......

What specifically are you talking about?

 

[Renee]

Maybe some of the victims families wouldn't WANT the murderer to work for them! Maybe they would want nothing to do with them! I wouldn't! If someone did this to my daughter and grandchild, I wouldn't want that person to live either. Just because YOU think that is what should happen, that doesn't mean everyone thinks that. I would like to know the guy suffered as much as my daughter and grandchild did.

That's why we are civilized.....we don't let the emotions rule. You can't personalize to make your argument

 

[Caroljo]

What specifically are you talking about?

There you go, acting dumb again like you don't know.

DARN! I keep forgetting it's not an act with you!

 

[Dawg]

9 pages and the sob is still DEAD
it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

What specifically are you talking about?

she hasn't a clue.

 

[connieb]

better to be ignorant? LOL. I agree that you cons are ignorant of the Constitution.
you don't know that cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited in our Constitution.
you don't know that torture is prohibited by our Constitution, military law and international law.

And, when the Constitution was written - it was considered neither cruel or unusual - be be hanged, to be branded, to be put in stockades with your ear nailed to the to board, etc.

So, hey - if it THAT wasn't cruel or unusual - almost any other method of punishment we have today is positively humane.

connie

 

[JuliefromOhio]

And, when the Constitution was written - it was considered neither cruel or unusual - be be hanged, to be branded, to be put in stockades with your ear nailed to the to board, etc.

So, hey - if it THAT wasn't cruel or unusual - almost any other method of punishment we have today is positively humane.

connie

how times change, eh?
we were coarse and primitive back then and then we evolved.

 

[connieb]

how times change, eh?
we were coarse and primitive back then and then we evolved.

Still doesn't make the punishment cruel or unusual by the standards of the Constitution.

 

[Wulk]

how times change, eh?
we were coarse and primitive back then and then we evolved.

Of course you've evolved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

 

[Queen Titania]

There is no humane method for killing a human. The only humane course of action is to deny our government the right to kill it's own citizens. It's really pretty simple. The only argument against such a policy is blood-lust.

For many reasons I am against Capital Punishment and Prison- as we use it- for that matter.

But I don't completely agree with you on blood lust being the only reason for it - It is a natural human/animal instinct to destroy that which has been or iss or could be a danger to your 'tribe'. Blood lust comes surely for/from the chase which now a days is the Media - so second hand slaying of the monster.