Pace of vaccinations is good.

[Mick]

I did not say he was lying. So stop lying.

Your other quote:

"That is speculation as an attempt to let him off the hook for lying"

Now you're lying about your own lying about his lying. Egads. That mind is shot!

Conclusions.

Total deaths are significantly higher than historical trends in Florida even when accounting for COVID-19–related deaths. The impact of COVID-19 on mortality is significantly greater than the official COVID-19 data suggest.

That's already addressed because the issue exists nationwide. Nothing there changes this:

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.

It's not a conspiracy no matter how many times your confused mind tries to lie or push it.

 

[middleview]

New daily update on new cases:

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Are some states ran by certain individuals flubbing up the efforts here?

I think it has to do with people letting their guard down. Not with the leadership of the state. Combine that with population density and weather and you have two factors that have nothing to do with what party the governor belongs to.

 

[Mick]

Have you had yours yet? I've had both of mine...the PA doing my second shot said he'd done about 10 per hour...There was one person checking people in for appointments and I just followed the lines on the floor to a cubicle where I got my shot and went to a room to wait 15 minutes.

Dude, I've had both Moderna shots long ago. I give shots everyday that I work. Tomorrow I will probably give 40-50. One person by themselves cannot do more than probably 3 an hour because of all that is involved. Multiple people....now that is a different story. Stop posting about things you know nothing about.

 

[Mick]

Researchers at the CDC found that up to 22,861 people more than normal may have died between Jan. 1 and Oct. 3 — 8,000 above the official COVID-19 tally at that time.

COVID-19 is claiming more lives than official data indicates

A new study by the CDC says that Florida's death toll in the COVID-19 pandemic may be close to 23,000 people — 8,000 more than the official count. The figure includes people killed by other conditions brought on by the pandemic, beyond those infected by the coronavirus.

www.sun-sentinel.com

That's already addressed because the issue exists nationwide. Nothing there changes this:

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.

It's not a conspiracy no matter how many times your confused mind tries to lie or push it.

 

[middleview]

Your other quote:

"That is speculation as an attempt to let him off the hook for lying"

Now you're lying about your own lying about his lying. Egads. That mind is shot!







That's already addressed because the issue exists nationwide. Nothing there changes this:

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.

It's not a conspiracy no matter how many times your confused mind tries to lie or push it.

Yeah..."probably" is pretty much definitive. It's unsurprising and that Florida doesn't "STAND OUT"....is all you need to hang your hat on.

 

[Spamature]

Your other quote:

"That is speculation as an attempt to let him off the hook for lying"

Now you're lying about your own lying about his lying. Egads. That mind is shot!







That's already addressed because the issue exists nationwide. Nothing there changes this:

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.

It's not a conspiracy no matter how many times your confused mind tries to lie or push it.

So you have a study where this was done in every state ?

If not, then it is speculation.

I mean who knows how many bars wide open, mask ignoring, Trump rally holding, red states governors have falsified their data to make Trump and Q look good.

I have long noted that compared to other states with even fewer infections Fl numbers always stood out as oddly low. They even had cases rising while deaths were falling in an out of sequence with the rest of the country and the normal way the numbers rise and fall, right before the election. It was an obvious scam by DeSantis to lower the numbers for the presidential election and hide what was happening at that time.

 

[Mick]

Yeah..."probably" is pretty much definitive. It's unsurprising and that Florida doesn't "STAND OUT"....is all you need to hang your hat on.

You're the one calling it a conspiracy. The fact is there is nothing unusual going on in Florida that isn't going on anywhere else. You have yet to acknowledge that. Ill, no?

 

[Mick]

So you have a study where this was done in every state ?

If not, then it is speculation.

Ahh, so after claiming it was all a cover up and lies you NOW you fall back to "speculation" again??? Insanity.

I mean who knows how many bars wide open, mask ignoring, Trump rally holding, red states governors have falsified their data to make Trump and Q look good.

Poll after poll have shown repeatedly that Republicans were much closer to reality on factors involving Covid-19 and outcomes. You're the people that believe 50% of Covid patients die, believe in wearing multiple masks, believe draconian economy-crushing lockdowns were sane. You're also the one that now believes DeSantis is in a great conspiracy to make you look stupid.....despite statements from epidemiologists in the state that there is nothing going on here that isn't going on elsewhere. Don't spew your bullshit here.

 

[middleview]

You're the one calling it a conspiracy. The fact is there is nothing unusual going on in Florida that isn't going on anywhere else. You have yet to acknowledge that. Ill, no?

Right...no problem that a woman was fired and says it was because she wouldn't change the numbers.

 

[Mick]

Right...no problem that a woman was fired and says it was because she wouldn't change the numbers.

The same woman who illegally broke into government databases and then tried to save the data to her personal devices and his facing a probable prison sentence for it? The same one who was raided by the FBI for it? The same one who produced NOTHING through all her shenanigans? The one who did all this while producing nothing that YOU still cited? Yeah, that's the one. Get that insanity out of here!

 

[Spamature]

Ahh, so after claiming it was all a cover up and lies you NOW you fall back to "speculation" again??? Insanity.


Poll after poll have shown repeatedly that Republicans were much closer to reality on factors involving Covid-19 and outcomes. You're the people that believe 50% of Covid patients die, believe in wearing multiple masks, believe draconian economy-crushing lockdowns were sane. You're also the one that believes DeSantis is in a great conspiracy to make you look stupid. Don't spew your bullshit here.

No they have not shown that. If anything they show that Republicans have been the main drivers of conspiracy theories and irresponsible behavior during the pandemic. Nothing about that has changed since you are also the leading conspiracy theorist when it comes to the vaccines as well, and the least likely group to say they will be vaccinated.

No we do not believe that 50% of the Covid patients die. When have you ever seen anyone here say that ?

You people have made it quite clear you do not believe in mitigation. Which is why the red states with the least restrictions have the highest overall per capita infection rates, even with much less dense populations.

I have long noted that compared to other states with even fewer infections Fl numbers always stood out as oddly low. They even had cases rising while deaths were falling in an out of sequence with the rest of the country and the normal way the numbers rise and fall, right before the election. It was an obvious scam by DeSantis to lower the numbers for the presidential election and hide what was happening at that time.

 

[middleview]

The same woman who illegally broke into government databases and then tried to save the data to her personal devices and his facing a probable prison sentence for it? The same one who was raided by the FBI for it? The same one who produced NOTHING through all her shenanigans? The one who did all this while producing nothing that YOU still cited? Yeah, that's the one. Get that insanity out of here!

Yeah, seems to me you predicted Chauvin wouldn't be convicted....and that Trump would win the election.

Your predictions suck. She is accused first of using a messaging system at the health dept to send a message to 1,750 people...when that seemed a bit flimsy they claimed she'd downloaded the contact info for 20,000 people.

I can find nothing on a raid by the FBI.

According to the newspaper, Jones appeared in court late Monday morning, where a judge set her bond at $2,500. The judge rejected requests from FDLE to ban Jones from using computers and place a GPS tracking device on her.
“It was a little bit of overreach,” Dobson said of the requests. “I think this entire case has been [an] overreach.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/19/rebekah-jones-florida-covid-jail/

 

[bdtex]

Meanwhile, here in Houston, NRG Stadium is open from noon-9pm for a no appointment, no waiting, drivethrough vaccine. Saw some stuff about vaccine resistance( anti-vaxers) today. We’re real close to there I think. My second dose is scheduled for May 7th. Just out of curiosity, I checked local availability of vaccines today. Anyone wanting the vaccine should be having no trouble making appointments right now.

Hidalgo Announces No Appointments Needed For COVID-19 Vaccines at NRG Park

Earlier this year, Houston area residents watched COVID-19 vaccine appointment websites and phone lines crash under the pressure of massive public demand for the life-saving shots. That was followed by months of available vaccine appointments getting filled in mere minutes, when locals had to be...

www.houstonpress.com

 

[Spamature]

Holy left winger speculation article. What is it with you people and lack of facts?

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.


Conspiracy time in the left winger mind!

How is lying about the cause of death not worse than the location of deaths ?

 

[bdtex]

This will help. Talked with my son today. He was/is waiting for the J&J vaccine to be available again.

States resume administering J&J vaccine after pause

Multiple states said they will resume administering the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine after federal health authorities agreed on Friday that the benefits outweigh the risks.

thehill.com

 

[Mick]

How is lying about the cause of death not worse than the location of deaths ?

Here you again. You are making accusations that have no basis in reality.....

Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that while the research on missed deaths in Florida was unsurprising, the state probably ranks in the middle for missed deaths, which is an issue nationwide.
“Florida just doesn’t stand out as hiding something,” he said.

The fact is there is simply nothing remarkable going on in Florida other than DeSantis has been able to protect his elderly population and that he's done remarkably well......much better than several blue states.......despite being a heavy tourist destination and maintaining economic and personal freedoms. There isn't a conspiracy of lies or an unusual number of missed deaths in Florida.

Maher said it best. Dems are dumb as hell. Most of you believe that the death and hospitalization rate from Covid is 50%. Most of you believe in wearing multiple masks. You believe in draconian lockdowns that caused massive suffering that did little to no good. You're fools. This is why so many of you are unemployed, lazy, and mooch welfare.

 

[bdtex]

Not all the news is good. Maybe more folks will go in for the one-and-done J&J.

5M Americans have missed second vaccine dose: report

More than 5 million Americans have missed getting their second coronavirus vaccine dose, indicating a growing trend that could endanger the U.S.’s efforts to return to normalcy.The New Yo…

thehill.com

 

[Dawg]

This will help. Talked with my son today. He was/is waiting for the J&J vaccine to be available again.

States resume administering J&J vaccine after pause

Multiple states said they will resume administering the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine after federal health authorities agreed on Friday that the benefits outweigh the risks.

thehill.com

Beware.............IMO

 

[bdtex]

This might help but I doubt it. These are folks who are unmasked and unvaxed purely because it's another way for them to oppose Joe Biden. Darwin rejoices.

GOP Doctors’ Caucus Puts Out PSA Urging Constituents To Get COVID Vaccine

The Republican Doctors’ Caucus put out a PSA on Monday endorsing the COVID-19 vaccine amid higher rates of vaccine hesitancy among Republican-identifying Americans — especially the men — compared to…

talkingpointsmemo.com

 

[Dawg]

This might help but I doubt it. These are folks who are unmasked and unvaxed purely because it's another way for them to oppose Joe Biden. Darwin rejoices.

GOP Doctors’ Caucus Puts Out PSA Urging Constituents To Get COVID Vaccine

The Republican Doctors’ Caucus put out a PSA on Monday endorsing the COVID-19 vaccine amid higher rates of vaccine hesitancy among Republican-identifying Americans — especially the men — compared to…

talkingpointsmemo.com

Politics has NO bearings one way or the other of if I get or don't get the vax, IMO it would be same for the majority.

Last nights Nightly News interviewed women that said they were not getting the vax due to caution and they should be cautious:

The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero. (reuters.com)