So here we are.Putin announces Russia will annex four regions of Ukraine | CNN
Russian President Vladimir Putin has formally announced the Kremlin's intention to annex nearly a fifth of Ukraine in blatant violation of international law.www.cnn.com
One fifth to be annexed.
We'll see. I think the ukrainians will continue moving forward reclaiming land. I also think a formal declaration of war is forthcoming from one or the other
The proper response (specific just to this annexation aspect) is to ignore it as if he did not announce this. In other words, Putin’s action here is irrelevant in that:Putin announces Russia will annex four regions of Ukraine | CNN
Russian President Vladimir Putin has formally announced the Kremlin's intention to annex nearly a fifth of Ukraine in blatant violation of international law.
One fifth to be annexed.
“It’s much like some twerking moron lefty male “announcing” that he is now a girl.”
The Ukrainians have been doing a pretty good job pushing Russians out of Ukraine territory. Don’t you know that?
Hitth clothe to home, eh Bugthy. Such a swishy propagandist…
Recognizing....and reality are two grossly different things.
Yep. I’m just saying Russia’s “annexation” should impart no meaning to the civilized world…any more than if Putin switched his infantry from brass to steel ammo.
I think it is more for domestic consumption.
I like your idea here Rick, but I'm not sure how it brings this tragic war to a conclusion.
It doesn’t. The war is awful - Putin’s annexation does nothing to improve it and neither does its rejection/embrace. Bad dudes do bad stuff - and appetite for same typically cannot be sated.
Neither side has declared war? Interesting these silly games of semantics. Yet another reason to hate polticians and the politics they play.
Not really, but sure enough another reason to hate Putin, the cowardly murderous punk. Zelenskyy and Biden are also politicians but I support their policy of telling Putin to go fvck himself and get the hell out of Ukraine with all his shit and all his supporters in that country.
Please, your particular brand of politicians are simps. Takes one to lead one. ha ha
I really like Zelenskyy. He has shown what he’s made of over the past year or so. I also like the way Biden and other Patriotic Americans have reacted since Putin’s murderous spree. I know you prefer gutless punks like Putin and Trump. That’s pretty obvious judging by the crap you post here daily.
Needless to say, partition of the fake state of Ukraine is not remotely on Washington’s mind. After all, it would remove the latest neocon reason for spreading the blessings of Forever Wars to the fairest parts of the planet.
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Actually, it might be: "Putin orders a side dish of Ukraine". His army/waitstaff seems unable to comply. Putin is now threatening to nuke the entire restaurant in a pique of anger.Putin announces Russia will annex four regions of Ukraine | CNN
Russian President Vladimir Putin has formally announced the Kremlin's intention to annex nearly a fifth of Ukraine in blatant violation of international law.
One fifth to be annexed.
If Stockman actually has a point...it is the patriotism of the Ukrainian people that is hard to explain...if they were as uninterested in fighting as the Russian troops are...there would be no war.Stockman is a pretty good student (or should I say professor?) of history and I always find his takes on things pretty astute. If he is indeed accurate in his facts here, it supports his contention that this is none of our business:
So we return to the question at hand: Every Ukrainian presidential election since 1991 has revealed a nation radically split between pro-Russian populations in the east and south and anti-Russian nationalists in the center and west. When the mailed fist of communist rule was removed, in fact, Ukraine became a territory yearning to be partitioned into more amenable jurisdictions of governance.
For instance, here is the results of the 2010 election that put a pro-Russian politician in the president’s office and at length gave rise to Washington’s putsch during the Maiden uprising that soon drove the country into civil war.
The above map barely does justice to the actual figures. In many of the yellow Tymoshenko-supporting areas the vote was 80% or higher in favor of the latter’s nationalist candidacy, while in much of the blue area the pro-Russian Yanukovych won be similar massive pluralities.
Yet this wasn’t a one-time fluke of short-term electoral politics: It was actually the recrudescence of the manner in which the fake nation of Ukraine was put together during the last three centuries.
Prior to the end of WWI, there was no Ukrainian state. Like the artificial and unsustainable polities of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, which were confected by self-serving politicians at Versailles (especially the domestic vote seeking Woodrow Wilson), Ukraine was a product of geopolitical engineering—in this case by the new rulers of the Soviet Union.
Indeed, the historical provenance of “Ukraine” can be described in a nutshell. What was to become Ukraine joined Russia in 1654 when Bohdan Khmelnitsky, a Hetman of the Zaporozhian Host, petitioned Russian czar Alexey to accept the Zaporozhian Host into Russia. That is to say, Imperial Russia spawned the latter day polity of Ukraine by annexing into its service the fearsome Cossack Warriors who inhabited its central region.
The army and a small territory then under Hetman control was called “u kraine,” which means in Russian “at the edge”, a term that had originated in the twelfth century to describe lands on the border of Russia.
During the next 250 years the expansionist Czars annexed more and more of the adjacent territory, designating the eastern and southern regions as “Novorussiya” (New Russia), which territories included Catherine the Great’s purchase of Crimea from the Ottomans in 1783.
That is to say, at the time of America’s own independence the heart of today’s Ukraine was ruled by the long arm of Czarist autocracy.
After the Bolshevik revolution, of course, the map changed radically. In 1919 Lenin created the socialist state of Ukraine on part of the territory of the former Russian Empire. Ukraine officially became the Ukrainian People’s Republic with the capital of Kharkov in 1922 (moved to Kiev in 1934).
Accordingly, the new communist state swallowed up Novorussiya per the eastern and southern portions of the green area in the map below, including Donetsk, and Lugansk regions, as well as the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions bordering the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea that are the sites of today’s Russia-sponsored succession referendums.
Then in 1939, as a result of the infamous Nazi-Soviet Pact, Stalin annexed the eastern territories of Poland, as designated by the yellow areas of the map. Thus, the historic territory of Galicia and the Polish city of Lvov were incorporated into Ukraine by the joint decree of Stalin and Hitler.
In June of 1940, Stalin next annexed Northern Bukovina (brown area) from Romania. And then at the Yalta conference in 1945, upon Stalin’s insistence to Churchill and Roosevelt, the Hungarian Carpathian Ruthenia was incorporated into the Soviet Union and added to Ukraine.
Taken together, these Stalinist seizures are now known as Western Ukraine, the people’s of which understandably do not cotton to things Russian. At the same time, the 85% Russian-speaking population inhabiting the purple area (Crimea) was gifted to Ukraine by Khrushchev in 1954 for the very reason of extending his own accession to the communist dictatorship.
Nevertheless, after the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Ukraine inherited these communist-confected borders within which there were upwards of 40 millions Russians, Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Tartars and countless lesser nationalities—all trapped in a newly declared country in which they didn’t especially wish to reside.
Indeed, the reason that the hapless state of “Ukraine” needs relief in partition, not a war to preserve the handiwork if Czars and Commissars, was well summarized by Alexander G. Markovsky in the American Thinker:
Needless to say, partition of the fake state of Ukraine is not remotely on Washington’s mind. After all, it would remove the latest neocon reason for spreading the blessings of Forever Wars to the fairest parts of the planet.
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Especially based on that top map, which, if accurate, suggests that the annexation referendum wasn't necessarily the sham we believe it to be. At the very least, if Stockman's facts are accurate, it would seem to point the way toward an acceptable negotiated end to the war...if we can only get the neocons out of the way.
