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Ginnie

Ginnie

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Don't you think simply because we are born with certain god given rights that we should be able to grow & consume the plant pictured in my avatar?

I have checked out the history of said plant in america & I am under the impression that it only became illegal in order to line the pockets & not take away from the profits of those invested in the alcohol buisness.

Do any of you really think there is a legitimate case to criminalize that plant?
 
It's becoming increasingly ridiculous. We now have had three Presidents (of both parties) who have subtlely or overtly admitted to illegal drug use in their youth.

Mitt Romney may be the last "straight" candidate we see....he doesn't even drink coffee or tea. :)

No way guys like Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan never lit up a doobie and Chris Christie looks like he's still got the "munchies". So what it's going to take is the final dying off of the old Religious Right on the GOP side....and it be REPUBLICANS who finally say it's time to end the Drug War (since if Dems do it, the GOP will demogogue it into "Liberals want pre-schoolers to get heroin!!!!").

Ron Paul may help with that...but it'll be one of the "new generation" of rightwingers who seals the deal.
 
I'll go a little further. The reason marijuana was scheduled was multifold -- among the reasons being that it is difficult to regulate (and tax) a plant that grows wild on three-fourths of the American continent. Having said that, among the reasons it was regulated is that it was seen as a "black" drug -- a drug used by black people that had to be controlled. So part of the reason it was outlawed was pure and simple racism.

As a guy who usually votes Republican because he doesn't want more regulation and control of his life, I'd prefer to see marijuana "re-legalized." If nothing else, it would return the nation to the production of industrial hemp, among the most useful things on earth.
 
What I worry about is how will it be regulated. If someone can go out on their lunch break and smoke a cigarette, will they be able to go out on lunch and smoke a "doobie"? (Gordon, we are old)
How will cops test for it like they test for alcohol?

When we were kids they said that one joint did as much damage to your lungs as a whole pack of cigarettes. They just came out with something the other day that concludes that it doesn't do any damage to the lungs. I have chosen not to update the info with my 14 year old ,though!!
 
gigi said:
What I worry about is how will it be regulated. If someone can go out on their lunch break and smoke a cigarette, will they be able to go out on lunch and smoke a "doobie"? (Gordon, we are old)
How will cops test for it like they test for alcohol?

When we were kids they said that one joint did as much damage to your lungs as a whole pack of cigarettes. They just came out with something the other day that concludes that it doesn't do any damage to the lungs. I have chosen not to update the info with my 14 year old ,though!!
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I could have used "blunt" :)

As for legal regulations, same as alcohol. A person leaves work at lunch and hammers down a few scotchs, faces the same restrictions. Cop pulls over an "erratic driver"...they do the old sobriety tests they did before breathalyzers.
 
Coupla guys I know that smoke weed claim that there's something in the Bible about it and that it's ok to smoke it because God created it.
 
Ginnie said:
Don't you think simply because we are born with certain god given rights that we should be able to grow & consume the plant pictured in my avatar?

I have checked out the history of said plant in america & I am under the impression that it only became illegal in order to line the pockets & not take away from the profits of those invested in the alcohol buisness.

Do any of you really think there is a legitimate case to criminalize that plant?
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Ms. Citzen,

I love it when pot heads go out of the way to defend their addiction.
 
I'll pose the same question I always pose when this question is brought up. IF we remove the "black market" aspect from marijuana, something else WILL take its place. Those inclined towards this sort of "bidness model", aren't likely to transition themselves to say.....weaving macrame flower pot hangers, and selling them in bazaars.

SO....what're your guesses as to what new "product" these people will choose to traffic in? And...do you seriously think it will be LESS harmful than marijuana?
 
fairsheet said:
I'll pose the same question I always pose when this question is brought up. IF we remove the "black market" aspect from marijuana, something else WILL take its place. Those inclined towards this sort of "bidness model", aren't likely to transition themselves to say.....weaving macrame flower pot hangers, and selling them in bazaars.

SO....what're your guesses as to what new "product" these people will choose to traffic in? And...do you seriously think it will be LESS harmful than marijuana?
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Ok, so are you saying because they'll move on to something else, it should not be made legal?


Do you remember studying about Al Capone & prohabition?

Do you think repealling the 18th amendment was a good thing?
 
The growing and consuming of the plant in your picture is not a "God given right".

The reasons that laws are made regarding many things are not necessarily on the up and up. We can't, or at least have not changed that. Laws are made for lots of reasons, some of them (especially some of the environmental laws, imo) are made to line peoples' pockets. That's how it is.

If we want said plant to be legal, then we need to do the work necessary to change the laws. Until those laws are changed, it is illegal to smoke, possess or sell that plant or its products. Period. We either abide by the law, or we break the law and accept whatever consequences we get for that without whining because it was our choice to make and we made it.

It's really just that simple.
 
Ginnie said:
Don't you think simply because we are born with certain god given rights that we should be able to grow & consume the plant pictured in my avatar?

I have checked out the history of said plant in america & I am under the impression that it only became illegal in order to line the pockets & not take away from the profits of those invested in the alcohol buisness.

Do any of you really think there is a legitimate case to criminalize that plant?
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Not for long Ginnie.. over 50% of the public wants it legalized. So even with the dummies currently in Congress and our imperfect AG who still believes in the failed war on drugs, it'll happen.
 
Jen said:
The growing and consuming of the plant in your picture is not a "God given right".

The reasons that laws are made regarding many things are not necessarily on the up and up. We can't, or at least have not changed that. Laws are made for lots of reasons, some of them (especially some of the environmental laws, imo) are made to line peoples' pockets. That's how it is.

If we want said plant to be legal, then we need to do the work necessary to change the laws. Until those laws are changed, it is illegal to smoke, possess or sell that plant or its products. Period. We either abide by the law, or we break the law and accept whatever consequences we get for that without whining because it was our choice to make and we made it.

It's really just that simple.
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Yeah Jen, we all know only YOU can tell us what rights GOD has given us.
 
No Jen it's not that simple. In many states it is legal to use with a prescription. Yes, it is a God given right seeing as how it is God's creation.

As for "environmental laws are made to line people's pockets" you couldn't be further from the truth. Environmental laws are made to protect our health and natural resources. The people fighting against them are attempting to line their own pockets.
 
Yes, Bo. It is that simple. In those states where it's legal to use with a prescription, it IS legal to use with a prescription. That is very simple.


Bo-4 said:
No Jen it's not that simple. In many states it is legal to use with a prescription. Yes, it is a God given right seeing as how it is God's creation.

As for "environmental laws are made to line people's pockets" you couldn't be further from the truth. Environmental laws are made to protect our health and natural resources. The people fighting against them are attempting to line their own pockets.
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I would like to see it decriminalized at least, Bo. And actually, although I don't smoke, I might enjoy an occasional "special" brownie if it were legal to have one. I simply do not do things that are not legal though.



Bo-4 said:
Not for long Ginnie.. over 50% of the public wants it legalized. So even with the dummies currently in Congress and our imperfect AG who still believes in the failed war on drugs, it'll happen.
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...my main concern is that we have enough drunk drivers killing innocent people now. Adding "legally" high people to the road, won;t make things any safer.

...that said, mj is not a "gateway" drug as it has been portrayed. It is no more harmful than alcohol consumption and should be made legal and taxed.
 
Jen said:
I would like to see it decriminalized at least, Bo. And actually, although I don't smoke, I might enjoy an occasional "special" brownie if it were legal to have one. I simply do not do things that are not legal though.
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I bet you've never torn the label marked "unlawful to remove" off of a mattress either. ;-)

Sheesh Jen, some laws are just stupid.

You'll enjoy these from Utah.. click on your own state and i'll bet you've broken at least one. Have a little fun!

http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/utah
 
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