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Number_58

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
Well, not when it effects them directly. Most of these 4.0 GPA students support raising taxes on the top 10%, but view it as different when asked to give some of their GPA points to the students with lower GPAs. Which leads to the question...is it different and if so, why?

[video=youtube;lOyaJ2UI7Ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss[/video]
 
I guess it will astonish you, and maybe cause your head to explode, but one can be an educational conservative and a political liberal, simultaneously.

The very well-known educational reformer E.D. Hirsch, Jr. (the originator of the 'Core Knowledge' curriculum now in use in many of America's better schools) describes himself in precisely that way.
 
Now, how about trying to answer the question I posed...I'm not interested in your attempt to change the topic of my post.

Most of these 4.0 GPA students support raising taxes on the top 10%, but view it as different when asked to give some of their GPA points to the students with lower GPAs. Which leads to the question...is it different and if so, why?
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Wanna take a stab at answering the question? Or do you want to continue not contributing to the subject?
 
Not sure how GPA equates to what someone is trying to equate it to here, but leave it to the wedge drivers to keep on trying to drive their wedges.

In addition, it is NOT redistribution as much as it is putting one's money where their mouths are to help pay down the debt. What percent of raised taxes on the wealthy would directly go to "give money" to those who didn't earn it?

The construct is not true.

A higher GPA does not have a absolute relation to earning it. Some of the top business people were college drop-outs, some high school dropouts, Some of the biggest failures and burnouts were brilliant academically.

The proposed construct here not only fails to compare apples to apples, it fails to take all the factors and considerations into account.

Who are the people whining about government debt? Who supported those who have increased that debt as much or more than their political opposition? How would someone with a 4.0 GPA best reduce the national debt? With cuts in spending only or cuts in spending mixed with increased revenue? Who can still live in the lap of luxury after paying more from their income to help pay down the debt and pay the nation's bills, some of which are higher because some of the top compensation earners got bonuses for getting rid of American jobs and sending them overseas?

Would someone with a 4.0 GPA be able to remember or figure out when the financial crisis hit the U.S. and the name of the political party representing the President at the time (if they were blaming presidents for economic failures as blaming Obama would be doing) and when two tax cuts (that are still in place) intended, by calls for their support and title, to create economic growth (where was/is it?) and jobs growth (where was/is it?)?

Do you think someone with a GPA of 4.0 could figure out that it cost money to repair damage and it takes time to repair it? Do you think someone with a 4.0 GPA could figure out why and how the wealthy are getting wealthier while those that make a lot less are stagnating or losing ground?

Do you think someone with a GPA of 4.0 could figure out what is behind the minds of people like Bernie Madoff and other White Collar crooks who would rather not see regulations and laws that would get in the way of their activities to enrich themselves? Do you think someone with a 4.0 GPA does not know the definitions of the words "greed" and "gluttony"?

Do you think someone with a 4.0 GPA has not studied world history or the history of their own nation or taken note of what great economic disparity has often led to in recorded history? Do you think they haven't studied the why and wherefores of the design of their own nation's government and what is meant by "checks and balances" to power and influence?
 
Wow, talk about going over liberal's heads. I don't think a one of them understood the message involved in the survey.
 
Again...care to answer the question. I don't care to engage in essay writing with your attempts to dodge the question. Sorry, I wrote enough essays in college...mine however stayed on topic.
 
Oh, I think they understood it...just know that this shows hypocrisy at its finest. They would like to attempt to change the subject (i.e. KnotaFrayed)...but I will continue to try to keep things on topic.
 
Number_58 said:
Well, not when it effects them directly. Most of these 4.0 GPA students support raising taxes on the top 10%, but view it as different when asked to give some of their GPA points to the students with lower GPAs. Which leads to the question...is it different and if so, why?

[video=youtube;lOyaJ2UI7Ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss[/video]
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Sacrifice is easy, when you think it is someone else who should do it.
 
Number_58 said:
Well, not when it effects them directly. Most of these 4.0 GPA students support raising taxes on the top 10%, but view it as different when asked to give some of their GPA points to the students with lower GPAs. Which leads to the question...is it different and if so, why?

[video=youtube;lOyaJ2UI7Ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss[/video]
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Mr. numbers,

I hate to say it, but it is already happening. I listened to an interesting piece on Freakanomics Radio on NPR a couple of weeks ago, talking about inflation, not of money, but of everything. Women that used to be considered fat, are now considered to be normal. The actually wastebands in pants and slacks have increase, but the size has remained the same (which explains why I have worn a size 36 since high school). They also talked about how the self esteme movement in schools have degraded the grading system, such that now, just about everybody gets As and Bs. A B-grade today, would have been considered just barely passing ten or twenty years ago.
 
Number_58 said:
Well, not when it effects them directly. Most of these 4.0 GPA students support raising taxes on the top 10%, but view it as different when asked to give some of their GPA points to the students with lower GPAs. Which leads to the question...is it different and if so, why?

[video=youtube;lOyaJ2UI7Ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss[/video]
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Yes it's different, the vast majority GPAs are merit based and objective and people have an outlined minimum that's not attribute conditiioned

Thx

P.S. - The conservative response to this is there is no such thing as America's "isms" or the effects of these "isms" aren't bad enough to have to be addressed via laws.
 
And the conservatives would also (laughably) claim there is no 'luck' involved with the income distribution.

Like Paris Hilton wasn't just plain lucky.
 
I think the self-esteem movement is absurd. It has led to some schools canceling spelling bees and chess tournaments, on the grounds that the losers in such contests might have their fragile self-esteem damaged. Sheesh. I am also totally opposed to grade inflation.

A few years back, I read that the AVERAGE grade at Harvard was now an A-. The AVERAGE grade.

What should that make you think of George W. Bush, though, I wonder. His GPA at Harvard was in the C- range.

Ouch. That woulda been an F- in the old days, and at anywhere else.
 
LeRoy_Was_Here said:
I think the self-esteem movement is absurd. It has led to some schools canceling spelling bees and chess tournaments, on the grounds that the losers in such contests might have their fragile self-esteem damaged. Sheesh. I am also totally opposed to grade inflation.

A few years back, I read that the AVERAGE grade at Harvard was now an A-. The AVERAGE grade.

What should that make you think of George W. Bush, though, I wonder. His GPA at Harvard was in the C- range.

Ouch. That woulda been an F- in the old days, and at anywhere else.
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Anybody seen Obama's College records?
 
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