WE WON!!!

[Marcus Aurelius]

I see the reductio ad absurdum on the part of the liberals is still in full force.

 

[connieb]

it's like that with ALL employee sponsored health coverage. You either take it, as is, or get your own.

Indeed. i am not exactly sure why this little fact escapes them, though.

 

[connieb]

Con--That was BEFORE the ruling today. Anyone with a brain knows this gives Hobby Lobby a lot more clout to be even more crazy with their control over the EMPLOYEES lives. What I posted was a FUTURE potentiality It was NOT looking at what existed BEFORE this ruling today! ....please at least try to keep up.

Ah, so what you posted was a bunch of made up nonsense. Got it. I figured as much, but I thought you may be out of the loop. If you read the ruling of course you would see that pretty much this just lets Hobby Lobby be treated as any other non-profit already given exemptions.... but don't let truth and facts get in the way of a good rant.
Here is the thing though - even if they began to insist that every woman wear a burka to work - each woman - would have the right to quit. That is how freedom works. You are free to supply conditions you want on me as your employee - and I am free to tell you to take your job and shove it. They can not literally come into my home or my body and force me to do anything.

 

[Barbella]

Con--That was BEFORE the ruling today. Anyone with a brain knows this gives Hobby Lobby a lot more clout to be even more crazy with their control over the EMPLOYEES lives. What I posted was a FUTURE potentiality It was NOT looking at what existed BEFORE this ruling today! ....please at least try to keep up.

Aaaahhhh.... so you're constructing this doomsday scenario in your own little head, and present it as FACT. "Future potentiality".... ROTFLMAO

Typical liberal.

 

[Zoar]

Aaaahhhh.... so you're constructing this doomsday scenario in your own little head, and present it as FACT. "Future potentiality".... ROTFLMAO

Typical liberal.

Who said anything about FACT???? Methinks you project too much.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

... They can not literally come into my home or my body and force me to do anything.

Liberals are afraid someone else will get to do this before 'they' can.

 

[Zoar]

Liberals are afraid someone else will get to do this before 'they' can.

Oh right, Marcus is a-scared liberals are going to make him have man sex or something loony!! Bahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Dino]

A massive heart attack for Clarence Thomas, as soon as possible, would be one of the best things that could happen to this country.

Have to give a 'like' to this post.

I love it when low-life leftist pseudointellectuals drop their pretense and allow themselves to blatantly wallow in the gutter.

 

[Arkady]

Have to give a 'like' to this post.

I love it when low-life leftist pseudointellectuals drop their pretense and allow themselves to blatantly wallow in the gutter.

I'm just honest about it. The Supreme Court is one of the only places where a single person's timely death could make an enormous positive influence for the country. Even a president's death is unlikely to make that much difference, since he'll just be replaced by his VP who is likely ideologically very close. If someone like John Boehner were to kick the bucket, likewise, he'd just be replaced by some very similar ideologue. But if any of the three most conservative Supreme Court justices were to die soon, while Obama still holds the nominating power, it would likely result in an enormous improvement for the nation. I picked Thomas because he is utterly useless, other than as a vote for all things horrible. Scalia I may dislike, but he at least has the brains to ask questions during argument, to help to develop the court's thinking on a topic, and so even in the minority he could provide value to America, by bringing out better analysis by the parties, and sharper thinking by the majority. Alito is similar. But Thomas is just a lump. If he vanished tomorrow, oral arguments would be no different, and the verdicts would be far better.

 

[afella]

SCOTUS just issued its decision that a union can't force a person who doesn't wish to join to pay dues.

This is going to be disastrous for unions. They will lose many dues paying members, Good, they are communistic organizations anyway and we have more than enough labor laws to protect workers and more than enough lawyers to sue over violations. Who the hell needs unions too?

Just in! Hobby Lobby won; they don't have to provide insurance to their workers if it violates their religious belief.

Man, what a great day it is when the AHole Obama loses twice.
Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel!

It's very good for the feudalists, great to have that class separation. That way the rich remain supreme while the lesser suffer.

 

[Dino]

I'm just honest about it. The Supreme Court is one of the only places where a single person's timely death could make an enormous positive influence for the country. Even a president's death is unlikely to make that much difference, since he'll just be replaced by his VP who is likely ideologically very close. If someone like John Boehner were to kick the bucket, likewise, he'd just be replaced by some very similar ideologue. But if any of the three most conservative Supreme Court justices were to die soon, while Obama still holds the nominating power, it would likely result in an enormous improvement for the nation. I picked Thomas because he is utterly useless, other than as a vote for all things horrible. Scalia I may dislike, but he at least has the brains to ask questions during argument, to help to develop the court's thinking on a topic, and so even in the minority he could provide value to America, by bringing out better analysis by the parties, and sharper thinking by the majority. Alito is similar. But Thomas is just a lump. If he vanished tomorrow, oral arguments would be no different, and the verdicts would be far better.

You literally make me want to vomit. The faster vermin like you are extinguished from the earth, the better off free Americans will be. You should donate your body to science so your brain can be analyzed thoroughly, and that whatever sickness is infecting you might be eradicated in the future. Think of the good you could do!

 

[Spamature]

SCOTUS just issued its decision that a union can't force a person who doesn't wish to join to pay dues.

So if a union were to win a wage increase then shouldn't the non union member's share of the increase belong to the union and its members ?

Or do you believe that if you negotiated a raise for yourself part of that raise should be divided with people who also happen to work there ?

 

[Sgt Staples]

So if a union were to win a wage increase then shouldn't the non union member's share of the increase belong to the union and its members ?

Or do you believe that if you negotiated a raise for yourself part of that raise should be divided with people who also happen to work there ?

In a word no. Equal treatment under the law is protected by the Constitution's 14th amendment, and the right to associate or not (freedom of association) is guaranteed by the Constitution's 1st Amendment.

It is not the non union members fault that the union members choose to pay dues. They are perfectly free to not pay dues as is every employee.

Now so far this ruling only pertains to home health care workers and pertains to those workers in Illinois, and I suspect it shortly will pertain to workers in other states that forcibly unionize home health care workers against their will.

Unions are a dying and rightfully so. we have enough labor laws and lawyers to sue for violations of those laws. Unions were definitely need before we had those laws and some employees of some companies (coal mines for example) were subjected to harsh and dangerous working conditions.

That is no longer the case. As a matter of fact, I believe that labor laws now go TOO far regulating child labor. I worked from the time I was 13, after school and in the summer at a place called "Power City" fixing lawn mower engines etc. and by 16 was able to afford my own car.

Couldn't do that today, and it's a shame.

 

[Arkady]

You literally make me want to vomit. The faster vermin like you are extinguished from the earth, the better off free Americans will be. You should donate your body to science so your brain can be analyzed thoroughly, and that whatever sickness is infecting you might be eradicated in the future. Think of the good you could do!

I like it when I win the approval of people I respect, but I've got to admit it's even sweeter when I win the disdain of subhumans like you.

 

[Spamature]

In a word no. Equal treatment under the law is protected by the Constitution's 14th amendment, and the right to associate or not (freedom of association) is guaranteed by the Constitution's 1st Amendment.

It is not the non union members fault that the union members choose to pay dues. They are perfectly free to not pay dues as is every employee.

Now so far this ruling only pertains to home health care workers and pertains to those workers in Illinois, and I suspect it shortly will pertain to workers in other states that forcibly unionize home health care workers against their will.

Unions are a dying and rightfully so. we have enough labor laws and lawyers to sue for violations of those laws. Unions were definitely need before we had those laws and some employees of some companies (coal mines for example) were subjected to harsh and dangerous working conditions.

That is no longer the case. As a matter of fact, I believe that labor laws now go TOO far regulating child labor. I worked from the time I was 13, after school and in the summer at a place called "Power City" fixing lawn mower engines etc. and by 16 was able to afford my own car.

Couldn't do that today, and it's a shame.

You talk a lot about the law. But when it comes time to make those laws business highers lobbyist to help shape those laws in their favor and it appeals to the courts to interpret those laws in their favor.

Please tell me who other than unions lobbies the government on behalf of employees and who other than unions represent the real interest of workers before the courts.
You say that unions are no longer needed. So please explain to me why the decrease in the middle class's share of the nation income mirrors the decline in union membership.

Now you make think that workers don't need to be represented and business does. You may think the middle class does not deserve a fair share of what they work to produce. But that don't make it so.

 

[Drumcollie]

Uhh....what?

WAAAAHHHHHHH WAAAAAHHHH denial

 

[Drumcollie]

The Supreme Court is plagued by five Republican operatives who are determined to legislate from the bench, on behalf of the conservative movement.

But it isn't a problem when Obama legislates...errr violates the law on behalf of winger lefty...Two faced left winger hasn't reared his/her /it's ugly face again...

 

[Sgt Staples]

You talk a lot about the law. But when it comes time to make those laws business highers lobbyist to help shape those laws in their favor and it appeals to the courts to interpret those laws in their favor.

Please tell me who other than unions lobbies the government on behalf of employees and who other than unions represent the real interest of workers before the courts.
You say that unions are no longer needed. So please explain to me why the decrease in the middle class's share of the nation income mirrors the decline in union membership.

Now you make think that workers don't need to be represented and business does. You may think the middle class does not deserve a fair share of what they work to produce. But that don't make it so.

 

[Drumcollie]

Now you make think that workers don't need to be represented and business does. You may think the middle class does not deserve a fair share of what they work to produce. But that don't make it so.

Workers do need to be represented...the Chart shows what Union support of lefty policy has done. Workers need laws that protect all workers...not just the few that pledge allegiance to a union...they need fair laws...not lefty laws.

 

[Gramps]

...as usual, nothing to say I see.

I have something to say. I saw no mention of the word "hate" in your response nor
could it have even closely related to anything to do with hate. Keep up the good work, Figjam, I'm on your team. As usual your responders rely on their twisted vocabulary to put word in your mouth.
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gramps