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First Ambassador killed since 1979???

According to a CBS News report updated at 8:39 am Eastern time Wednesday, the Libyan security forces hired to protect the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya moved Ambassador Chris Stevens to a second building within the consulate, then told the militant crowds where he was.

Stevens, 52, was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.

Though information on the circumstances surrounding Ambassador Stevens's death remain unclear, it appears that the embassy was not guarded by American Marines, but instead by local Libyans hired to act as a security force.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...owed-Militants-Where-to-Attack-Our-Ambassador

Who here is still voting to re-elect these clowns? Who here is still supporting the Libyan opposition government? Who is supporting our (official) apology to these militants for making fun of their religion?
 
Lukey said:
First Ambassador killed since 1979???

According to a CBS News report updated at 8:39 am Eastern time Wednesday, the Libyan security forces hired to protect the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya moved Ambassador Chris Stevens to a second building within the consulate, then told the militant crowds where he was.

Stevens, 52, was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.

Though information on the circumstances surrounding Ambassador Stevens's death remain unclear, it appears that the embassy was not guarded by American Marines, but instead by local Libyans hired to act as a security force.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...owed-Militants-Where-to-Attack-Our-Ambassador

Who here is still voting to re-elect these clowns? Who here is still supporting the Libyan opposition government? Who is supporting our (official) apology to these militants for making fun of their religion?
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Interesting how time works. It's always sad when these attacks occur. It was sad when the US Embassy was attacked in Lebanon in 1983. I know we had stronger beliefs back then...and kicked that President out of office...quickly and with little argument.
 
Yesterday I could have said "Bush honored the Reagan era by being the second GOP POTUS in 25 years to be on the helm when we suffered a horrific terrorist event that killed hundreds of people". But I did not because there is no nexus between the two events nor would it have been in good taste to link them. But I am not a conservative am I?
 
Craig said:
Interesting how time works. It's always sad when these attacks occur. It was sad when the US Embassy was attacked in Lebanon in 1983. I know we had stronger beliefs back then...and kicked that President out of office...quickly and with little argument.
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Refresh my memory - did the US Embassy in Lebanon issue an official apology to the attackers (that was backed by the Secretary of State)? Did it take twelve hours for the Reagan Administration to condemn the attack? Was the Embassy being defended by Lebanese security forces that participated in the attack? Do you have a point?
 
Lukey said:
First Ambassador killed since 1979???

According to a CBS News report updated at 8:39 am Eastern time Wednesday, the Libyan security forces hired to protect the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya moved Ambassador Chris Stevens to a second building within the consulate, then told the militant crowds where he was.

Stevens, 52, was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.

Though information on the circumstances surrounding Ambassador Stevens's death remain unclear, it appears that the embassy was not guarded by American Marines, but instead by local Libyans hired to act as a security force.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...owed-Militants-Where-to-Attack-Our-Ambassador

Who here is still voting to re-elect these clowns? Who here is still supporting the Libyan opposition government? Who is supporting our (official) apology to these militants for making fun of their religion?
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I don't think anyone here voted in the Libyan elections, and I don't see where Carter comes into it.
 
Why in the world are we relying on local security forces to protect our Ambassadors? Particularly in places of high tension, but in general as well.

connie
 
So Obama should lie us into a war with Canada?

KKKONS ARE STUPID FVCKS!!

Your god, Mitt Romney, is a fvckin TRAITOR!!

He's NOT the president and he came out with statements BEFORE the official statement was made...

FVCKIN TRAITORS!!!

You stupid fvcks hate America, after officials talked to the vid poster there's is no doubt this was a set up killing of an US ambassador BASED OFF TIMING ALONE and seeing that STUPID ass'd rMoney came out with statement before anything official had been declared implicates his dumb ass!!!|

Thx
 
Because Obama does not want to offend the local savages by making them think that he does not trust them with the lives of embassy staff. With Obama it is always all about image over substance. In this post 911 era a real president would turn those Middle Eastern embassies into fully armed and military staffed fortresses . . . but then Obama has never been a real president. He's just Jimmy Carter's spiritual son.
 
Lukey said:
Refresh my memory - did the US Embassy in Lebanon issue an official apology to the attackers (that was backed by the Secretary of State)? Did it take twelve hours for the Reagan Administration to condemn the attack? Was the Embassy being defended by Lebanese security forces that participated in the attack? Do you have a point?
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Yeah...our foreign policy leaves us open to attacks.

Refresh my memory....How many embassies were attacked during the Reagan/Bush/Bush presidencies?
 
That is insanity... Of course.. I don't necessarily think we should bother to have Ambassadors in regions like that anyway. There is no negotiating and peace keeping with people who do not value of human life. Perhaps if he trusts the goodwill of our enemies so much.. he should gamble with his own life. I quit simply do not understand the concern that some have with how the rest of the world sees us. Who cares? Are they not going to do business with us? Are they not going to visit here? Nah.. they will do all those things.. So the fact that they think we are arrogant and self centered which we are... doesn't bother me in the least. But. then I was raised to not really care what people thought about me. I was raised that it was a sign of being shallow and insecure when you worry more about what outsiders think of you than what you think of yourself. That doesn't mean you get to be mean or bully. But, kow towing to public opinion is a sign of weakness.



connie
 
Cicero said:
Because Obama does not want to offend the local savages by making them think that he does not trust them with the lives of embassy staff. With Obama it is always all about image over substance. In this post 911 era a real president would turn those Middle Eastern embassies into fully armed and military staffed fortresses . . . but then Obama has never been a real president. He's just Jimmy Carter's spiritual son.
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At least you aren't calling Obama Muslim, so I guess that's a good sign.
 
connieb said:
That is insanity... Of course.. I don't necessarily think we should bother to have Ambassadors in regions like that anyway. There is no negotiating and peace keeping with people who do not value of human life. Perhaps if he trusts the goodwill of our enemies so much.. he should gamble with his own life. I quit simply do not understand the concern that some have with how the rest of the world sees us. Who cares? Are they not going to do business with us? Are they not going to visit here? Nah.. they will do all those things.. So the fact that they think we are arrogant and self centered which we are... doesn't bother me in the least. But. then I was raised to not really care what people thought about me. I was raised that it was a sign of being shallow and insecure when you worry more about what outsiders think of you than what you think of yourself. That doesn't mean you get to be mean or bully. But, kow towing to public opinion is a sign of weakness.



connie
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It seems to me the Libyans were protesting an American film, so perhaps you should be concerned with how the rest of the world sees us.
 
I refuse to follow any link to Fox News on principle. If this person, whoever he is, made a stupid remark so what? We are talking about you Lukey, not someone else. You chose to make this post.
 
So follow this CBS link wherein they confirm it: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162...cluding-u.s-ambassador-j-christopher-stevens/

But here's the salient part of it encapsulated for you. Wanis al-Sharef, a Libyan Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said:
Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building - deemed safer - after the initial wave of protests at the consulate compound. According to al-Sharef, members of the Libyan security team seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated, and that building then came under attack.
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What is your point? BTW, you are so enraged that Obama beat your preferred choice of Hillary that from the day he won the primary to today, you have been nothing but an incoherent babbler lamenting the loss to the world of the supreme powers of Hillary Rodham Clinton. Guess what Sherlock, the Secretary of State in charge of foriegn affairs for the Obama presidency is Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
No. What we should do is make sure our enemies are destroyed. We should not kiss the butt of those who seek to destroy us. If they can not behave in a civilized manner.... then they are in the wrong. As soon as you give power over to people like that and alter your behaviour to suit them.. they have won.
 
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