Trump could be the most honest president in modern history

[Drumcollie]

No, he tried to repeal without replacement, remember? And the GDP is falling and the economy is weakening.

We are all going to die meme...Nope!

 

[Drumcollie]

Worked out great and got the economy back up and running after The Republican Great Recession.



They tried and did better than average

No they did not.

 

[sear]

"and as we see you are still working on that...but don't stop trying." Dc #39

Your choice of word "trying" is misleading.
I haven't stopped learning. I don't intend to.
"Succeeding" would be the more accurate term.
But then, the fact that I'm correcting you reveals which of us has made the better progress.

"Back to Kavanaugh again huh?" Dc #39

I doubt McCarthy ever met Kavanaugh.

 

[EatTheRich]

Nixon: Watergate, Agnew resigns to avoid prison, Nixon resigns to avoid impeachment...the Saturday night massacre.

Reagan: Hud Secretary Sam Pierce takes the 5th in an investigation into $5 billion in missing Hud funds. Deborah Dean went to prison. Iran Contra, North admits he destroyed evidence and smuggled documents out of the pentagon to hide the details of arms sent to Iran. Government money, in violation of the law, is sent to terrorists in Honduras fighting against the government of Nicaragua.

George HW Bush: Immunity for any and all participants in Iran/Contra.

Clinton: Aside from lying about sex....there are the bullshit allegations of all sorts of things...like the travelgate deal. Nothing there.

"W": Lied about WMD in Iraq. Lied about the plan to discredit Joe Wilson by outing his CIA agent wife.

Obama: The IRS stuff...nothing there. Benghazi...terrorist attack kills 4. Wrongdoing by Obama or Clinton? Nope. Wiretap on Page? Legal and authorized by a FISA court.

How you've decided Obama was less transparent is not all that obvious.

Check out how all these lefties came to that conclusion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/obama-promised-transparency-but-his-administration-is-one-of-the-most-secretive/2016/05/24/5a46caba-21c1-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html?utm_term=.a0afa16a88bf
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-obama-administrations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/03/barack_obama_promised_transparency_the_white_house_is_as_opaque_secretive.html

He kept the mass detention of immigrant families secret. He threatened mainstream journalists with political-police investigations and cut them off from press conferences.

 

[sear]

ER #44

Part of the problem with McCarthy's stain on our history is, it may promote a dismissive attitude toward conspiracy exposures in our governments.

Imagine if we'd discovered as quashed this conspiracy:

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt, that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

U.S. President Bush (the younger) televised address to the U.S. March 17th, 2003

"We will be welcomed as liberators." VP Cheney

They died for nothing, because the Bushies lied.

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

What were those promises? Can you name the 129 that he did not keep? Do you even know what his promises were?

Its in the link, Please at least click on something other than post reply

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

You did? LOL And he didn't show? That's hilarious. Who's surprised?

lol

That "dawg" has more bark than bite

 

[Spamature]

And that’s the honest truth, my friends. MAGA.

Trump lies every day, like any politician does. At the same time, Trump keeps his promises better than all the liars that came before him.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc-thiessen-trump-could-be-the-most-honest-president-in-modern-history

Did he build his wall ?
Did he deport 11 million illegals ?
Did he give America a healthcare plan that covers everyone for less ?
Did he create 4 million jobs in a year ?

 

[middleview]

Check out how all these lefties came to that conclusion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/obama-promised-transparency-but-his-administration-is-one-of-the-most-secretive/2016/05/24/5a46caba-21c1-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html?utm_term=.a0afa16a88bf
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-obama-administrations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/03/barack_obama_promised_transparency_the_white_house_is_as_opaque_secretive.html

He kept the mass detention of immigrant families secret. He threatened mainstream journalists with political-police investigations and cut them off from press conferences.

The Washington Post article is a whine claiming that Obama didn't do enough interviews..did not release enough info on civilian casualties related to drone attacks and went looking for who was leaking sensitive info on foreign policy. It wasn't about tracking down a whistle blower.

 

[Dawg]

lol

That "dawg" has more bark than bite

did nina show?

she your new goat

anytime boy

 

[middleview]

Check out how all these lefties came to that conclusion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/obama-promised-transparency-but-his-administration-is-one-of-the-most-secretive/2016/05/24/5a46caba-21c1-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html?utm_term=.a0afa16a88bf
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-obama-administrations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/03/barack_obama_promised_transparency_the_white_house_is_as_opaque_secretive.html

He kept the mass detention of immigrant families secret. He threatened mainstream journalists with political-police investigations and cut them off from press conferences.

The atlantic article accuses Obama of assassinating American citizens. If you join a military organization engaged in hostilities against the US...it doesn't matter if you were an American citizen...you are fair game. It also says that the administration kept that a secret. That is absolutely false. Awlaki knew he was on a target list. His parents filed suit against the US to prevent an attack. At no time did Awlaki try to deny his position in the leadership of Al Qaeda.

 

[EatTheRich]

The atlantic article accuses Obama of assassinating American citizens. If you join a military organization engaged in hostilities against the US...it doesn't matter if you were an American citizen...you are fair game. It also says that the administration kept that a secret. That is absolutely false. Awlaki knew he was on a target list. His parents filed suit against the US to prevent an attack. At no time did Awlaki try to deny his position in the leadership of Al Qaeda.

Hostilities against the U.S.? Like attacking U.S. citizens? So if Trump declares you to be a member of Antifa and you don’t deny it to his satisfaction, he can have you killed?

 

[marvin martian]

Hostilities against the U.S.? Like attacking U.S. citizens? So if Trump declares you to be a member of Antifa and you don’t deny it to his satisfaction, he can have you killed?

That's precisely the way @middleview wants it. Although he won't admit he only wants Democrat presidents to have that power.

 

[marvin martian]

The atlantic article accuses Obama of assassinating American citizens. If you join a military organization engaged in hostilities against the US...it doesn't matter if you were an American citizen...you are fair game. It also says that the administration kept that a secret. That is absolutely false. Awlaki knew he was on a target list. His parents filed suit against the US to prevent an attack. At no time did Awlaki try to deny his position in the leadership of Al Qaeda.

Absolutely incorrect.

 

[middleview]

Hostilities against the U.S.? Like attacking U.S. citizens? So if Trump declares you to be a member of Antifa and you don’t deny it to his satisfaction, he can have you killed?

Really? You see Antifa as a foreign military organization at war with the United States? Are it's members engaged in hostilities against the United States? Are they beyond the reach of law enforcement?

 

[marvin martian]

Really? You see Antifa as a foreign military organization at war with the United States?

Doesn't matter according to the current law.

Are it's members engaged in hostilities against the United States?

Yes.

Are they beyond the reach of law enforcement?

Sometimes.

 

[EatTheRich]

Really? You see Antifa as a foreign military organization at war with the United States? Are it's members engaged in hostilities against the United States? Are they beyond the reach of law enforcement?

You didn’t specify anything about being foreign, and the Obama administration explicitly asserted, in court, a right to kill “enemy combatants” ... including citizens labeled by them as such ... inside the U.S. Anyway, AQ has cadres in the U.S. If Antifa started in Germany, what makes them less foreign?

Yes, its members are engaged in hostilities against the United States in the same vague sense that AQ was.

I suppose the last question depends on how skilled the LE are.

 

[middleview]

You didn’t specify anything about being foreign, and the Obama administration explicitly asserted, in court, a right to kill “enemy combatants” ... including citizens labeled by them as such ... inside the U.S. Anyway, AQ has cadres in the U.S. If Antifa started in Germany, what makes them less foreign?

Yes, its members are engaged in hostilities against the United States in the same vague sense that AQ was.

I suppose the last question depends on how skilled the LE are.

Has Antifa blown up any airliners? I'd say the Al Qaeda war on the US was hardly vague at all...3,000 dead on 911..remember that?

The word "Combatant" has a legal definition not reached by anyone affiliated with Antifa.

 

[marvin martian]

Has Antifa blown up any airliners? I'd say the Al Qaeda war on the US was hardly vague at all...3,000 dead on 911..remember that?

Irrelevant according to the Obama era policy that said if he considered you a terrorist, you could be assassinated, anywhere and anytime. Trump now has the same authority. This is what you wanted.

 

[Days]

No, he tried to repeal without replacement, remember? And the GDP is falling and the economy is weakening.

No, he wanted both, he's not the Legislative branch.